Aries=Venus/Mars or Sun=Venus/Mars or Venus=Mars in the natal chart will almost always mean sex is an issue-- from rampant to dysfunctional to nonfunctional--ranging from promiscuity to impotence to sexual assault.
In the natal chart, a close aspect of Venus to Mars usually indicates sexual issues from impotence to promiscuity.
It's not pathological, altho Jeffrey Dahmer, Ted Bundy and Sacher-Masoch (mashochism) all had Venus=Mars.
Some other pathological behavior with sexual undertones:
Domestic terrorists/incels: Connor Betts (Venus=Mars) , Roger O. Elliot (Venus conjunct Mars)
Havelock Ellis Venus/Mars=Aries
Rudolph Valentino Venus/Mars=Aries
Jack Nicholson Venus/Mars-Aries point
By arc/progression, solar and; lunar returns it’s a general indication of anything having to do with your own sexual conditions and anything happening to others close to you. A client who recently had 2 Venus/Mars progressions experienced an event involving possible sexual impropriety towards her child, showing that the range of possibilities involving sexual events is wide.
A planet at the Venus/Mars midpoint in natal charts, by progression and in solar & lunar returns can be an adjective describing some attribute of the circumstances or people involved.
When John Lennon met Paul McCartney in 1956, he had P. Sun=Venus/Mars....not that I think anything sexual was happening between them...but I do think he'd met the guy who'd give the Beatles sex appeal.
A particular woman's sexual activity is described.
For example, a woman with natal Moon=Venus had a mom who had an affair, became pregnant. She integrated the new son into the family and it was years later than her mom's affair and the brother's s origin became known to the woman with natal Moon=Venus/Mars.
In another instance, a man had Moon=Venus/Mars in his lunar return. He met a sexually experienced and sexually knowledgeable woman.
--Books, letters with sexual content. (N, P, SR/LR)
--Sexual partner involved with publication, education, vehicles or you meet thru a sibling. In rare instances, Mercury=Venus Mars in the natal chart symbolizes sex with sibling.
Marquis de Sade had Mercury=Venus/Mars (22 ½ /4’ orb)
Amy Fisher Mercury=Venus/Mars (64H/18’ orb) Symbolizes Joey Butafucco/garage.
David Beckham Mercury=Jupiter=Venus/Mars
People Magazine Sexiest Man Alive
Increased or improved sexual interest/sexual activity, when activated by progression or transit. In a solar or lunar return it’s sometimes a sexual partner who travels, is an out-of-towner.
Cate Blanchette 'comes out'
Sexual issues; impediments or stoppage.
N. Saturn=Venus/Mars Lacy Peterson (22 1/2)
N. Saturn=Venus=Mars (=Juno) (64H/5' orb)
Josh Duggar admits molestation
T. Saturn=Venus/Mars no TOB but no more than 30' away
-I got obscene phone call when T. Saturn was on my Venus/Mars midpoint.
Unconventional sexual views or activities; sexual freedom
D.H. Lawrence natal picture
These days, there's often a technical ingredient, meeting over the internet; texts or steamy emails, or meeting someone in science or tech.
Anythony Weiner Natal Uranus=Venus/Mars
T. Uranus triggered the picture when his sexting scandal erupted.
Linda Tripp P. Uranus=Venus/Mars 1' orb
she hands recorded conversations about Lewinsky and Clinton to Kenneth Starr, prosecutor
Non-exclusive sexual relationship when it appears in the natal chart and very often by transit. Not so much in the solar or lunar return.
Financial reference to the (sexual) partner e.g, palimony,
Tangay affair with Peggy Guggenheim. His first retrospective exhibition in Britain at her gallery Guggenheim Jeune.
Great success; Guggenheim wrote "Tanguy found himself rich for the first time in his life".
1938 T. Pluto =N.Pluto=Venus/Mars
Clint Eastwood Natal Pluto=Venus/Mars
At the time of event: SA Venus/Mars=Pluto about 1-2 weeks from exact (4/26/1989)
T. Pluto 1 degree away the day when he was sued, transiting back and forth over midpoint
But Lee Marvin had Venus square Pluto which is just as common, maybe more so with Saturn near the midpoint by major aspect; T Pluto was conjunct partner's Venus
• Child support when no marriage is involved
Wordsworth he had an affair in France and supported her and his daughter as best he could in later life.
Upon Caroline's marriage, in 1816, Wordsworth settled £30 a year on her (equivalent to £2,313 as of
2019) P. Pluto 3' from Venus/Mars midpoint
• Paying for sex (Venus/Hades much more common with prostitution)
Ø Kafka frequented prostitutes
Ø Jeffrey Archer newspaper accused him of paying money to a prostitute. In 1987, he won a court case and was awarded large damages because of this claim.
Ø Dennis Wilson 64H "Manson family used his charge cards, took his clothes, drove his Mercedes. Manson had a stable of young women who catered to his every desire….blinded by the women who swarmed about Manson, Wilson didn’t care that the Family was slowly eroding his life and his possessions P. Pluto-=Venus at the time of the murders
Ø Jeffrey Epstein financial arrangements with girls
Ø Francis I his mistress used her position with him to "enrich her family"
Mercator He took a new wife, Gertrude Vierlings, the wealthy widow of a former mayor of Duisburg (and at the same time he arranged the marriage of Rumold to her daughter)
John Milton Milton married Mary Powell, who was the daughter of a royalist squire of Oxfordshire, a man who owed money to Milton's father.
Amelia Earhart husband really launched her huge commercial life
James Polk married wealthy woman
William Penn "they lived in great style"
With no children, Annette Giacometti became the sole holder of his property rights. She worked to collect a full listing of authenticated works by her late husband, gathering documentation on the location and manufacture of his works and working to fight the rising number of counterfeited works
Giacometti used his wife as only model (Emilio Pettoruti too)
Ulysses Grant's wife's family owned slaves (she was wealthy and this refers to her inheritance or just her family's resources?)
Rutherford B. Hayes same thing; they set their inherited slaves free ("I would rather take in washing than sell slaves"
Moses Hess married a poor Catholic seamstress, Sibylle Pesch, "in order to redress the injustice perpetrated by society". Although they remained happily married until Hess' death, Sibylle may have had an affair with Friedrich Engels while he was smuggling her from Belgium to France to be reunited with her husband. The incident may have precipitated Hess' split from the Communist movement.
Rarely, it's a sexual/death connection
Prince Rudolph of Austria known for murder/suicide with lover in Mayerling hunting lodge Natal Pluto=Venus/Mars (major aspect and Pluto=Sun/Moon by minor aspect)
T. Venus=T. Pluto=Natal Mars on the day of event.
DOB 9/13/1953 8:23PM Washington DC
Joe McCarthy's comment about gays caused senator to commit suicide
McCarthy Pluto=Venus/Mars and 1953 SR Pluto=Venus/Mars all major aspect
Jim Carrey wrongful death lawsuit. He failed to inform his partner that he was STD positive and she died.
Pietro Mascagni Cavalleria rusticana Relationships, money, revenge, jealousy, death
A young villager returned from the military service to find fiancé has married someone prosperous. In revenge, he seduces another young woman in the village. Overcome by jealousy, his ex-fiance begins an adulterous affair with him, which results in his death.
e.g., Prince Rudolph of Austria known for murder/suicide with lover in Mayerling hunting lodge
Natal Pluto=Venus/Mars (major aspect and Pluto=Sun/Moon by minor aspect)
T. Venus=T. Pluto=Natal Mars on the day of event.
Non-exclusive sexual relationship, in natal, progressions, SA, SR/LR.
Scott Peterson (64H/exact)
N. Node=Venus/Mars=Aries Amber Frye (+LR when she met Scott)
Food is (ahem) an ingredient. Examples: meet in a restaurant, or the partner is associated with food.
Sex and the job.
In the natal chart and in the SR (and probably other ways) it means you meet a sexual partner at your job. It can indicate sexual professionals or work with sexual content.
Hired a dance teacher who was into dirty dancing.
P. Pallas=Venus/Mars (64H/4')
Eliot Spitzer SR prostitute scandal.
--Apparel, beauty, fashion with especially sexual associations.
--Partner is involved with decorating, renovation, building, as a profession or just at that time of the progression or in the SR/LR.
--Bill Clinton Juno=Venus/Mars SR for impeachment 'the dress'--also Saturn and Hades=Venus/Mars
Bouriscot--fell in love with male opera singer posing as a woman. Venus=Mars=Juno (64) SR for meeting contained Juno=Venus/Mars (major aspect)
--Partner is associated with real estate or moving.
--Finding “a place”
Partner is associated with art, when this appears in solar/lunar returns.
In the natal chart of the horoscope of an artist, the content of the artwork may be sexual.
When Prince Harry's Las Vegas party pictures became public, his LR had Cupido=Venus/Mars
Sexual activity occurs in unrefined or rough--possibly even illegal--circumstances.
--Bonnie Lee Bakely exact/Saturn and Kronos nearby GET ASEPCT
--Ron Jeremy Venus =Mars=Hades (all conjunct!) Thanks Bill Sarubbi.
--Bill Clinton impeachment SR (also Saturn)
--Amy Fisher SR when she met Butafuco
LR Hades=Venus/Mars John Ruskin wedding night, couldn't consummate because he was repulsed by wife's natural body parts
Betsy Bloomingdale--husband liked SM (she learned of affair with P. Zeus=Sun/Moon either exact or 1' orb)
Sexual partner is in the government or your boss. I just saw this recently in the natal chart of a woman who is currently having an affair with her boss. (The feelings don’t have to be mutual.)
Christine Keeler Natal Venus=Mars=Kronos=Saturn
In the news: Mercury=Venus=Mars=Kronos---Commonwealth Nations Change Royal Succession Rules
Kronos=Venus/Mars - held for sex crimes. It's considered a trumped up charge by government to jail him.
Monica Lewinsky SR relationship with Pres. Clinton
Sun and Kronos=Venus/Mars
Partner is an out-of-towner or you meet while traveling; widespread sexual activity.
--Heidi Fless Apollon=Venus/Mars=Aries 12/30/1965 9:05AM LA, CA
--One of Brazil’s top strippers/porn stars 10/30/1972 3:30PM Nova Olympia, Brazil.
Limitation of sexual activity
James Barrie (wrote Peter Pan)
Admetos=Venus/Mars (44' orb)
He was spared prison but was given a year probation with the condition that he take estrogen to diminish his sex drive. He was subjected to injections of female hormones intended to "curb his lust."
(also Pluto=Venus/Mars by major aspect; Uranus=Venus/Mars by minor aspect
Intense sexuality. Any way it shows up.
--French brothel owner (64H/18’) DOB 5/3/1901 3:51pm France
Vulcanus =Venus/Mars =Aries (64H/18’)
--LA hooker / had others work for him (64H/9’) 7/1/24 6:40AM Ottawa, IL.
Vulcanus=Venus/Mars (also=Kronos & Chiron)
Partner is described as in a religion, a cause or ideology. Religion influences sex.
Krishnamurti N. Poseidon=Venus/Mars
--Client had no sex during period for religious reasons.
TIGER WOODS POSEIDON=VENUS/MARS
“But I would be lying if I did not admit that the tantric sexual practices had something to do with it. I had outgrown sitting meditations, deity visualizations, while both guru yoga and death yoga failed to advance my enlightenment. So I sought out a tantric master living in Bhutan and received a series of tantric transmissions from him.”
WHAT DO OPRAH, MICHAEL JACKSON, ERICA JONG, HENRY FORD, EDDIE IZZARD, KARL MARX, BENNY HILL, ALEISTER CROWLEY AND HERMAN MELVILLE HAVE IN COMMON?
Chiron received bad parenting. But he also had a daughter (whose name was Melanippe or Arne) who was ashamed to tell him when she became pregnant.
. sexual loneliness
· self destructive behavior e.g., precocious or promiscuous sex
· harm resulting from sex e.g., scandal
CHIRON=VENUS/MARS IN THE HOROSCOPES OF ENTERTAINERS, AUTHORS CELEBRITIES AND HISTORICAL FIGURES
OPRAH (7' orb)
Like Chiron himself, Oprah was conceived by parents who'd had a single sexual encounter and then abandoned her. "I was sexually abused" by a cousin, an uncle and a family friend "from age 10 to 14, my resulting promiscuity as a teenager, and, finally at 14, my becoming pregnant". Insecurities about appearing in public with her partner resulted in an obsession with her weight. "I knew that when people would see us together that the first thing they were thinking was...'what's he doing with that fat girl?'" She is dogged by rumors that she is gay.
Oprah has more than one planetary placement that corresponds with complex personal events and resulting issues: Sun=Venus=Saturn=Vulcanus.
Several planetary combinations that include Chiron appear in the charts both parents and children where there has been abandonment or abuse. Saturn/Chiron is not uncommon. Sun/Chiron or Venus/Chiron pictures aspects appear with some regularity. Tina Turner and Art Linkletter, both abandoned children, have Sun=Chiron (135) and Sun=Venus=Chiron (less than 2 degrees orb) respectively.
There's only anecdotal evidence for the Chiron=Venus/Mars midpoint picture specifically appearing in the horoscopes of fathers who didn't acknowledge their illegitimate children but it's dramatic and compelling. Both Henry Ford and Karl Marx are said to have fathered sons whom they never legally acknowledged. Ford had a closer relationship with that child while Marx's child was thought to have been adopted by Engels for Marx's convenience.
The Ford "brothers", Edsel Ford and John Dahlinger resemble each other more than they do their father. Ford was said to have his chauffer marry his mistress and built a palatial property whose worth far, far surpassed the financial resources of its occupants: for his mistress who was an avid horse racer-- 2 racetracks a blacksmith shop and several barns; a refrigerated fur storage vault, a gatehouse, a lake and skating house, a greenhouse, gardeners quarters and servants quarters, and a secret entrance through which Ford could continue visiting his mistress.
MICHAEL JACKSON (1' orb)
Talented and strange in many ways, Michael Jackson had Chiron exactly on the midpoint of Venus/Mars (1' orb) as well as a wide square between Venus and Mars (4 degrees). The Jackson 5 got their start performing in strip clubs. At age 9, Michael was the youngest. "In of one of their early numbers, he was encouraged to leave the stage and crawl beneath the tables, looking up ladies' skirts, flashing lewd smiles". As he began to mature "his father told him he was ugly. He was certain this was true: he felt his skin was too dark and his nose too wide" (*) leading to an obsession with cosmetic procedures that had questionable results.
His first girlfriend was with 12 year old Tatum O'Neill when Jackson was 17. "She wanted to do everything and I didn't want to have sex at all." (**) At age 21, he and 15 year old Brooke Shields's friendship was, Jackson remembered "romantically serious for a while...We had one encounter when she got real intimate and I chickened out. And I shouldn’t have." On his wedding night with Lisa Marie Presley, 35 year old Jackson called a friend "in a panic" for "sex advice to make sure that Lisa was impressed with his 'moves.'" (***)Their 1994 marriage (lasting one year) made headlines like "Jackson-Presley Union Sparks Shock, Doubt, Laughs.", coming so soon after the 1993 allegations of sexual misconduct with a boy. It should be remembered the boy had cancer, and Jackson was motivated to help.
Presley insists they had sex but never saw him naked or without make-up. ‘The first time, she went to turn on the lights afterwards, he ran into the bathroom so she wouldn’t see his body. He emerged 20 minutes later, in full make-up and a silk robe...They were into role-playing games, although Lisa would never say who was playing what kind of role." (****) Like Jackson, Presley also had natal Chiron=Venus/Mars (1 degree 12' orb). When they connected romantically in February 1993, her P. Chiron was opposite P. Uranus (1' orb), just 2' from the Venus/Mars midpoint. Also T. Uranus was conjunct T. Neptune, making a sesquiquadrate aspect with her N. Sun/Cupido/Kronos/Poseidon/Chiron picture.
Jackson's 2nd wife gave birth to 3 children but the couple never lived together and the children were said to have been the result of artificial insemination.
Almost 100 years after her execution, Mata Hari's name is still associated with sexual intrigue and espionage. The power she wielded over men became apparent at age 15, when her enchanted headmaster pursued her, resulting in a scandal that forced her to leave school. Dutch by birth, at age 18 she answered a personal ad placed by a 38 year old Dutch businessman living in Indonesia and they married within 3 months. Shortly thereafter, she left her abusive husband who openly kept a concubine, but not before having 2 children who were infected with syphilis by their parents and later died of the disease. In order to support herself, she became an exotic dancer, wearing nothing but jewelry and a bra--she was said to be insecure about her small breasts. Photographs of her performances were used to take her children from her.
Black magician and self proclaimed "Beast" whose sacred spiritual sacraments included sexual practices engaging as many partners of all ages and both sexes as time would allow. Certain "Sex Magick" practices in his books, such as oral and anal sex, were considered deviant during his lifetime in the Victorian era (when even a man kissing another man was a convictable offence) while other practices, such as rape ("Some of the most passionate and permanent attachments have begun with rape") and necrophilia ("justifiable in some exceptional cases" (*)a.c. Magick: Liber Aba) and eating the partner's feces, remain aberrational even to the 21st century sensibility.
In the 2nd half of 1888 and early 1889, 13 year old Crowley had P. Chiron=Venus/Mars exactly. He was said to lose his virginity at around age 14 by seducing a parlor maid on his mother's bed and contracted gonorrhea shortly afterward, but there is only one source that specifically refers to his activity during the precise time frame when the progressed aspect was exact. Written by an astrologer who--based on Crowley's physical proximity to the murders as well as aspects of Mars, Saturn and Uranus--concluded that Crowley was the real Jack the Ripper, serial murderer of prostitutes. Read for yourself: Click here: Jack the Ripper a.k.a. Aleister Crowley or try Http://bookoflaw276.tripod.com/crowleyripper.html. Crowley--a student of astrology himself-- also wrote an astrological analysis of the murders. (*)A.C. Magick: Liber Aba
The Benny Hill Show's bawdy brand of humor was hugely popular in the 140 countries where it was shown, but castigated by feminists and ultimately banned by British TV chiefs as unsuitable for family viewing. Labeled the "comedy of regret"(*) Hill's character was a dirty older man with his pants around his ankles, ogling and chasing partially clothed women.
In reality "Benny was not someone who touched other people much...He was shy and continually disappointed by sex"(**). His professional downfall was the result of dipping into his personal collection of pornography and sex aids--said to have been worth millions--for a sketch featuring him assaulting a policeman with a huge purple penis, actually an African antique.
Hill's chart also contained a Venus/Mars square (1 degree 11' orb) as well as Saturn in Scorpio square to sun in Aquarius (1 degree 57' orb).
EDDIE IZZARD (7' orb)
Heterosexual transvestite Eddie Izzard describes himself as a male lesbian and a male tomboy. Now age 51, he's had a 3-year relationship with a woman which ended 10 years ago. "But try as I might, I just can't fancy a man...I am constantly trying to access my whole girl side, trying to define what my sexuality is all about...I haven't got the answers. It is still a bit confusing...And I know that some sections of society find me abhorrent." He's been beaten by men for wearing a dress. "In girlie mode, I will get hassled. I have to be able to fight or attack or respond"(*). Aggressive in work ('in your face') and hiatus (he ran 43 marathons in 51 days), but in the pursuit of someone to whom he attracted he admits “No. Well, I don’t know quite what I do...relationships, they’re a f***ing minefield... I don’t trust being ‘in’ love".(**) Izzard also has Chiron=Venus/Saturn.
Some of Izzard's other chart factors: Mars and Saturn conjunct in Aquarius, Pluto less than 1 degree from the Virgo Asd. and the 7th house Moon in Pisces is inconjunct Uranus--it's only aspect. His mother died when he was 6 years old, but he began dressing in women's clothes 2 years before then.
From writers of trash to the classics, an author's horoscope is an interesting lens through which to study planetary combinations which are likely to symbolize titles, contents and characters as if they are 'real life' events and people.
Erica Jong (6' orb)
With the publication of Fear of Flying, Jong became the "Queen of Erotica" giving voice to sexual liberation in the early days of the women's movement with her story focusing on sex and lots of psyhotherapy, of an awful marriage to a psychiatrist and an affair with a therapist. Published in 1973 when P. Chiron was exact with N. Venus/Mars, the novel coined the term 'zipless fuck' to describe a sexual encounter between two strangers with no emotional involvement or ulterior motive.
Her daughter's autobiographical memoir Sex Doctors in the Basement provides a glimpse into Jong's personal life from the vantage point of a 7-year old "watching my mother saunter around au natural, past the pictures of naked lesbians around...the trauma of listening to my mother call my stepfather a 'horny Boy Scout'...it still haunts me to this day"; and the Drs. Kronhausens--sex doctors living and working in the basement of Jong's home--whose anti-aging treatments attracted celebrities and included sharing bodily fluids with them.
Authors Toni Morrison and Edna Saint Vincent Millay actually use the word 'wounding'-- precisely the word associated with Chiron-- in the context of sexual activity.
Toni Morrison (36' orb)
Toni Morrison's recollection of her first encounter between black and white people was her father assaulting a white man who appeared outside their apartment--assuming the man had come to molest his daughters. Apart from that incident, the only evidence of Chiron=Venus/Mars in her intimate life is the attribute of the loner. She left her husband while pregnant with their 2nd child, and in the subsequent 50 years, never remarried or even had a personal relationship--apart from with her children--that was known to the public.
Nor are sexual issues the centerpiece of her work, but whatever sexual behavior there is, is described in critical studies as "taboo, abusive...violent...perverted...sadistic...dehumanizing...traumatic" *. Deviant sexuality such as rape, incest, pedophilia and bestiality symbolizes a sick society.
Here's one example: Sula, the main character in the novel named for her, has inherited her mother's "addiction to casual sex"* . But while her mother enjoys sex and is tolerated even by their wives of all the men with whom she's been, Sula experiences "a loneliness so profound"** as well as the contempt of her community. When she seduces her closest friend's husband, destroying their marriage and leaving the friend devastated "The wound she inflicts is something which Sula is unable to comprehend."* Another character returns from WW1 suffering permanent physical and mental injuries "never touched...never caressed" but "walked about with his penis out (and) peed in front of ladies and girl children." (*)
Will glut, will sicken....
The wound will heal, the fever will abate(****)
Being wrought not of a dearness and a death
But of a love turned ashes and the breath(****)
I loved you more than life, but let it be.
As the more injured party, this being so,
The hour’s amenities are all to me—
The choice of weapons; and I gravely choose
To let weapons tarnish where they lie;
And spend the night in eloquent abuse(*****)
MICHAEL HUTCHENSE SR WHEN HE DIED OF AUTOEROTIC ASPHYXIATION
separates from Liddell family and his close relationship with their children
also P. Saturn=Mars/Jupiter 1' orb
N. Venus sqauare Mars and South Node in Scorpio.
This is a double indication of a complicated sexual life, or, in this case, sexual activity that changed his life:
Jeremy Thorpe, his political career was destroyed by a scandal involving allegations of a homosexual relationship and of a murder conspiracy to keep it quiet, (Also Chiron conjunct Kronos)