Saturn/Hades

 Saturn/Hades

RPP:  Trouble.  Sadness.  The alien.   Sickness.   Unemployment of long duration, enemies, enmity.   Serious loss.   Prison

Nova Chartwheels:   Severe sickness of long duration.    Unemployment.  Serious losses, obstacles.   Prison.  Enemies, hostility.  Sadness, misery.   Trouble.  melancholy

My own findings:

Foreign 

   Immigrants 

   Identifying with/influenced by a different country  or nationality                              (including foreign spouse).   Sympathy for a country other than one's own 

              Immigrants, exiles, refugees, fugitives.   

    Relocating is common: foreign or domestic, voluntary or involuntary  

    In government: colonialism;  in religion: missionaries.  

Mistrust   

               Bullying  

      Bad time to negotiate at the time of a transit  

      Often multiple manifestations e.g, immigrant as well as enmity  

Sickness

My findings:

Enmity; enemies

Critics of major institutions

Martin Luther (born with minor aspect) Battled established Church and it's reformers.  T. Saturn antiscia Hades he wrote the letter that started the reformation, a schism in the Church.  (October 1518).  His writings cast him as enemy of the pope.  He defended himself to the Pope; turned into a shouting match.  He slipped away at night.    

Karl Marx, Gandhi, Elizabeth Warren, Bernie Sanders. Upton Sinclair.  Some of the critics like Luther and Gandhi were imprisoned or fugitives because of criticism (not crimes!)

Upton Sinclair wrote  newspaper expose "The Brass Check"   Newspapers would not review it; would not accept paid ads for it. P. Hades=Saturn.  His most famous book was about immigrants (The Jungle)

 Bullies: In a small (4) sample of bullies, they all had Saturn/Hades 

Bellock called a "disputant".  Multiple manifestations: he was an alien: spent summers in France and "spoke French well but at no point could have been taken for French children" 

Exile from others:

Began self imposed political exile P. Hades =Saturn 8' orb.  Lasted through exact contact, 8 years later (Ross Perot)

 Foreign

Art:  M.C. Escher Moorish art influence.  Multiple manifestations: sick all his life; on progression there's a class photo sitting alone.   

 Foreign

Professions like missionaries, cartographers.  In government colonialism.

 Relocation.  Alien, refugee, statelessness. 

Giovanni Segantini artist: Childhood of poverty and hunger due to father's unemployment.  His sister neglected/overlooked citizenship papers, so he was stateless the rest of his life. P. Hades 4' from N. Saturn.  He couldn't marry because of his statelessness. Lived with partner as a married couple, causing problems with the church ("condemnation").  Forced to relocate.  Prison: when the progression was exact.  Police committed him to a reformatory (1870)

Foreign + enmity

Event: James II got involved with Africa when P. was 2' from exact.  (colonialism)

Event: exiled with Saturn/Hades SA Aries exactly 12/23/1688.  

As a result of his exile, he fought in the armies of 3 different countries

Event:  influenced by his exile in France, he became a Catholic when progression was exact.  

Confusing event: When progression was exact, his brother put him in charge of firefighting operations in the Great Fire of London, his actions and leadership were noteworthy. He "won the hearts of the people with his continual and indefatigable pains day and night in helping to quench the Fire" .  September 1666.  Is this serious losses?

Prison 

Marie Antoinette executed P. Hades=Saturn (64H/1' orb).  Multiple manifestations: She had been an immigrant 

 Catherine of Aragon Event: She got pregnant on a transting conjunction of Saturn to Hades 1518; baby born and died on 2nd conjunction (Feb and November 1518).  Natal Ceres=Saturn/Hades

Sickness

 Renoir developed arthritis P. Saturn=P. Hades 64H exactly.

D.H. Lawrence P. Hades=Saturn exact "a severe bout of pneumonia"

St. Bernadette had visions T. Hades conjunct n. Saturn; some wanted her to be put in asylum; she had long term illness

 Rare, but this happened: "Damage through frost" 

Not damage but coldness: Benjamin Franklin experiment with cooling was successful when P. Was exact.  "One may see the possibility of freezing a man to death on a warm summer's day."  Multiple manifestations: he was abroad.  Semisquare exact summer 1758.  

Art:

Art:  M.C. Escher Moorish art influence.  Multiple manifestations: sick all his life; on progression there's a class photo sitting alone.   There are often multiple manifestations e.g, foreign and enmity

 Foreigners 

Relocation is common particularly with progression.  Sometimes it's voluntary, sometimes it's forced. 

 French American artist: Niki de Saint Phalle  was expelled from school when P. Saturn=Hades.  Lived wih grandparents to who emigrated to US when P. Hades station=Saturn/Hades.  

Judy Garland "Wizard of Oz" she's an alien.  Before the film she had P. Saturn=P. Hades  she was under-employed, unpopular with the boss. 

Comic leaves home; creates "Comedy Cellar" P. Saturn=Hades exactly (64H)

Meryl Streep ??Accents?  (Elizabeth Warren born the same day is more a critic of the institutions)

Lifelong Scottish nationalist born in England (Compton MacKenzie) 

 New Zealand writers write about Maori

Books about foreign imaginary places:

Lewis Carrol: Alice in Wonderland.  William Howells Dean Utopia.  But not Rod Serling or Thomas More who both had Vesta/Chiron

Albert Camus, author of "L'Etranger", The Stranger, but in French the translation is literally 'the foreigner'.   N. Saturn/Hades=Aries (64H/2')

Wordsworth P. Hades=Saturn appeared in a publication called "The European"

 Enmity:

Remarque The Enemy; his own citizenship was revoked 

Jonathan Winters natal + transit he won an award for "crank calls"

 Diderot stories: 

 Best friends who are so much alike, they can't stop dueling and wounding each other 

Character kicked out because he refused to compromise and wouldn't humble himself by apologizing

 When T. Saturn waS conjunct N. Hades (1771) he wrote an article inspired by someone else's Voyage de Bougainville 

Diderot was, in his own life, imprisoned, had enemies and took an important trip to Russia. 

Saturn trine Hades and Saturn/Hades=Aries minor aspect: A male colleague once quit rather than work under Ms. Norwood's leadership. When he asked to return, she turned him down.

Planet at the midpoint:

N. Venus=Saturn/Hades: Married foreigners: Ranier and Candace Bergen