Monday, June 18, 2007

Saturn/Pluto

Financial loss or delay. Finances or financial results are lessened or diminished. Cheated out of money; financially unsustainable situation; financial burdens

By transit there is often a delay or even a problem regarding money or material resources, sometimes specifically involving a bank, investment.

Mao was born with Saturn=Pluto sqq 29' orb.  During the 31 year period when he led China, P. Pluto was never more than 3' from natal Saturn.

P. Saturn=N. Pluto (22 1/2 exact) King Juan Carlos family member in financial scandal.  Juan Carlos "for the first time detailed the yearly royal budget of 8.3 million euro, excluding expenses such as the electricity bill, paid by the State"

P. Saturn=Pluto
Clients's father was owed a great deal of money but former biz associates; money held up for several months; ultimately lost.

T. Saturn TRINE N. Pluto
Thaksin Shinawatra 7/26/1949
Thai Court Seizes $1.4 Billion From Ex-Premier

T. Saturn square Pluto (and T. Pluto=N. Saturn/Uranus)
Insurance company denies claim.

T. Neptune=Saturn/Pluto
Former Georgia Congresswoman Cynthia McKinney, standing beside a damaged yacht, Tuesday accused the Israeli navy of ramming the vessel to halt the delivery of medical supplies to the embattled Gaza Strip. Neptune symbolizes both the boat and the medical supplies.

Art example:  Job involves playing role of a less wealthy person:
P. Pluto=station = N. Saturn 64H/exact 1949; never more than 3' away til 1987.
Lucille Ball
Successul radio show.  Rich banker husband character dropped for working class character.
"I Love Lucy" P. Pluto 1' away 1951; glamourous/rich bandleader husband +wife character replaced with still more working class characters, elg. lived in an apartment

P. Pluto stationary retrograde 1 year from exact; Lucy's gamble on Star Trek paid off in the long run, but it was not soon enough for Desilu. 1967 - before Star Trek was even canceled - Desilu was sold to Paramount. 

Pres. candidate Mark Rubio
T. Saturn=N. Pluto semi-octile
"Marco Rubio’s Use of Party Credit Card Reinforces a Picture of Messy Finances"

Gwyneth Paltrow SR Ceres=Saturn/Pluto 64H
Attempts to live on $29/week food budget

Putin P. Zeus station=Saturn/Pluto
The Ukrainian crisis prompted a number of governments to apply sanctions against individuals, businesses and officials from Russia and Ukraine starting from March 2014. Sanctions were approved by the United States, the European Union (EU) and other countries and international organisations. Russia has responded with sanctions against a number of countries, including a total ban on food imports from the EU, United States,NorwayCanada and Australia. Both these sanctions applied to Russia and Russia's import bans in response have contributed to the collapse of the ruble and the 2014–15 Russian financial crisis.


Abagail Johnson Fidelity Investmests heiress
Saturn=Pluto (64H/between 4-11' orb)
DOB 1/7/1962

Diamond Jim Brady Aries=Saturn/Pluto
Both times he declared bankruptcy, Saturn/Pluto appeared in Donald Trump's solar returns.

Vulcanus =Saturn/Pluto (64H/9' orb)
(Also had Vulcanus=Saturn/Uranus in same 1992 SR)





Saturn=Pluto (22 1/2 w 15' orb) 2004 SR




(Also Pluto=Admetos (64/2')





P. Pluto to Saturn (64H/exact)
Appeared in client's chart when her father was owed money; it was withheld & then returned.


Debbie Reynolds filed for bankruptcy in 1997.
Saturn=Venus/Pluto (64H/3' orb)

In 10/1987 a stockbroker client had P. Moon=Saturn/Pluto when the market fell over 500 points.


N. Kronos=Saturn/Pluto (22 1/2 w 4'orb)
"Presidents often availed themselves of his business acumen, sometimes at moments when the murk of national and world economics seemed to call for just such a penetrating eye as he possessed."
Bernard Baruch

T. Pluto stationed on the picture March 1918. Appointed by President Wilson as Chairman of War Industries Board.

P. Vesta=Saturn/Pluto

Appeared in my husband's chart when his aunt's home (he was executor) was sold for what we thought of as a good price. But didn't receive proceeds for many months and considerably diminished by taxes.

SATURN/PLUTO

EVERYDAY TRANSIT: CREDIT CARD PROBLEM =TYPICAL

NATAL

SOMEWHAT LIKE SATURN IN SCORPIO

stokowski--orig stokowska means shortage LEE HARVEY OSWALD COMPLAINED FROM RUSSIA "THE MONEY THT I GET HAS NO WHERE TO BE SPENT.  I HAVE HAD IT HERE."

LEADERS WITH FINANCIAL RESPONSIBILITIES FOR BAD ECONOMY MAO AND FDR;
OTHERS WITH FINANCIAL RESPONSIBILITIES--LIKE GALLELEO AND SIBLINGS AND DOWRY

?pension when given to young person?--money for older people


TAX AVOIDANCE (LIKE PLUTO KRONOS)
SUPPRESS, WITHHOLD MONEY;
INHERITANCE ISSUES; ESTATE ISSUES
BEING CHEATED OUT OF MONEY
SOMEONE'S DEATH CHANGES YOUR LIFE; MURDERERS? MENENDEZ

 FINANCIAL PROBLEMS ARE AROUND THE PERSON
THE PERSON IS CHEATED OUT OF MONEY
TRYING TO MAINTAIN SOMETHING UNSUSTAINABLE
BURDENED WITH MONEY (GALILEO SISTER DOWRY)
?QUICK PROFIT=ECO PROBLEMS

eco problems: MAO?; fdr  MAO HAD THE P. STATION; take responsibility of financial crisis: fdr


RICH OLDER PERSON (LIKE A WOMAN MARRIES ONE)
LOVE OF YOUR LIFE MARRIES A RICH OLDER MAN

no funeral? mayor of casterbridge
burial place is messed up (foch)
louis xv The body was not embalmed for fear of contamination; instead, alcohol was poured into the coffin.[14] The remains were also soaked in quicklime.[15] In a surreptitious late-night ceremony attended by only one courtier,

stokowski--orig stokowska means shortage
??he changed the endings of the originals
left nyc orchestra over budget cuts
bad rep after death After Stokowski's death, Tom Burnam writes, the "concatenization of canards" that had arisen around him was revived – that his name and accent were phony; that his musical education was deficient; that his musicians did not respect him; that he cared about nobody but himself.
64H sun=kronos=hades=chiron=saturn/pluto
nyc and other cities cut budgets
he did alot for no money and financed some projects himself



INHERITANCE COMPLICATES
funding gets them into trouble:
TUKOLSKY-- a mistake, which he had got into because of financial difficulties.
he was left alot of money but when he did have financial difficulties he took a job for the money & it hurt his rep.

AROUND FINANCIAL PROBLEMS
CHEATED OUT OF MONEY
SOMETHING UNSUSTAINABLE
BURDENED WITH MONEY (GALILEO SISTER DOWRY)
QUICK PROFIT=ECO PROBLEMS

eco problems: MAO?; fdr  MAO HAD THE P. STATION
take responsibility of financial crisis: fdr

pio padre sun=saturn/pluto Pope Pius XII in 1957 granted him dispensation from his vow of poverty.[16][34]


Padre Pio's detractors used this project as another weapon to attack him, charging him with misappropriation of funds.[16]
1934 p. plut0=saturn--his 'faculties restored--this means his practice, i think.  he'd been on the outs with church for 8 years.

when p. pluto conjunct sun in 1912,  he's near death between 1910-1916--he's given back to his family, he gets better & returns to church. 
1911 first reports of stigmata In a 1911 letter, Padre Pio wrote to his spiritual advisor Padre Benedetto from San Marco in Lamis, describing something he had been experiencing for a year:
Then last night something happened which I can neither explain nor understand. In the middle of the palms of my hands a red mark appeared
EVELYN WAUGH SUN=SATURN/PLUTO DEFERRED INCOME FROM BOOK TO AVOID TAXES
JOHNNY CARSON: ALIMONY, TAX PLOYS; LIKE WAUGH DEFERRED COMPENSATION called his trust  'children's charity' (or something)
ORSON WELLES--COULN'T GET FUNDED; FUNDED HIS OWN FILMS; OTHERS RAN OUT OF MONEY.  LIKE WAUGH HE SPENT LOTS OF MONEY.  HE SPENT MONEY BEFORE HE KNEW IF HE HAD ENOUGH--GOOD QUOTES IN THE CHARLES HIGHAM BOOK
PRINCESS MARGARET HER POSSESSIONS WERE AUCTIONED TO PAY INHERITANCE TAX
natal saturn=pluto --bragge's donation to a library burned up in a fire
jim morrison -- his girl friend's parents inherited his estate
ravel --has earned the most royaltiesbut The composer died childless and left everything to his brother Edouard who turned Ravel's house into a museum. Edouard was severely injured in a car accident in 1954 and required near constant care. In 1957, Edouard announced his intention to deed 80% of the composer's posthumous royalties to the city of Paris and endow a Nobel Prize in music.
Instead, Edouard consigned the rights to his nurse, Jeanne Taverne, and her husband Alexandre, a chauffeur. When Edouard Ravel died in 1960, the Ravel estate fell subject to extensive litigation for ten years, reaching France's highest appellate court. Jeanne Taverne died before the litigation ended. During this period, Jean-Jacques Lemoine, the legal director of SACEM (the organization that collects and distributes royalties in France), froze distribution of Ravel's account.
When the litigation concluded, Lemoine resigned from SACEM and set up a shell company, Arima, with Alexandre Taverne for collecting Ravel's royalties. The company is based in Gibraltar and the British Virgin Islands in order to avoid French taxes. The two also sued Ravel's publisher, then nearing retirement, to re-write the original contracts, consigning a greater percentage of the royalties to Arima than Durand's publisher. Since that time, the shell company has collected at least £30m and none of Ravel's estate has gone to the Ravel family or to further the cause of French music.
?? WEIERSTRASS HE GAVE UP A CAREER IN FINANCE (ALSO SATURN/ZEUS)
LOUIS XV The financial strain imposed by these wars and by the excesses of the royal court, , contributed to the national unrest which culminated in the French Revolution of 1789t Louis XV left France with serious financial difficulties: "The military disasters of the Seven Years War led to acute state financial crisis.

HARDY SUN=S/P His funeral was on 16 January at Westminster Abbey, and it proved a controversial occasion because Hardy and his family and friends had wished for his body to be interred at Stinsford in the same grave as his first wife, Emma. However, his executor, Sir Sydney Carlyle Cockerell, insisted that he be placed in the abbey's famous Poets' Corner. A compromise was reached whereby his heart was buried at Stinsford with Emma, and his ashes in Poets' Corner.[12]         Shortly after Hardy's death, the executors of his estate burnt his letters and notebooks, but twelve documents survived,        Hardy became a truly great English poet after the death of his first wife,
ANNE OF BRITTANY The lack of a male heir threatened to put the Duchy into a dynastic crisis or to pass it directly into the royal domain. To avoid this, Francis II had Anne officially recognised as his heiress.....HER 2ND MARRIAGE Also, she ensured that their second child, son or daughter, would inherit the duchy of Brittany,[30] a clause that will not be respected in the future
Anne's will also conferred the succession of Brittany upon her second daughter, Renée. Her husband ignored this...She was buried in the necropolis of Saint Denis. Her funeral was exceptionally long, lasting 40 days, and it inspired all future French royal funerals until the 18th centurY\
samuel johnson inheritance not enough to cover school
ZUCKERBERG--starts thefacebook 2/2004; p. sun=p. jupiter 64h-- 2 weeks from exact (he writes the code when it was exact--lawsuit 9/2004 p. pluto=p. saturn 64H

seinfeld 1st epside p. pluto 2' from saturn/p mars coming to saturn/ zuckerberg also had p. mars conjnct saturn arpound the time he came billionaire....is there something we don't know about the way they were paid?si

mozart begins traveling; reimbursements to family delayed; The family had to wait for invitations and reimbursement from the nobility   P. saturn=pluto father near fatal illness
THERESA OF AVILA SUN=SATURN/PLUTO 64H AND SATURN=PLUTO SEMI OCTILE 36; ORB
The absolute poverty of the new monastery, established in 1562 and named St. Joseph's (San José), at first excited a scandal among the citizens and authorities of Ávila, and the little house with its chapel was in peril of suppression; but powerful patrons, including the bishop himself, as well as the impression of well-secured subsistence and prosperity, turned animosity into applause.
In March 1563, when Teresa moved to the new cloister, she received the papal sanction to her prime principle of absolute poverty and renunciation of properTY
HAVE KNOWN POVERTY; HAD A BANKRUPT FATHER (THRALE)

SOMEONE ELSE'S DEATH AFFECTS THEIR LIFE (CAN BE PARENT); PASTEUR'S CHILDREN'S DEATH MOTIVATED HIM-- MURDERERS MENDEZ BROS
OTHER ISSUES AROUND DEATH
DEGAS Degas learned that his brother René had amassed enormous business debts. To preserve his family's reputation, Degas sold his house and an art collection he had inherited, and used the money to pay off his brother's debts. Dependent for the first time in his life on sales of his artwork for income, he produced much of his greatest work
PASTEUR ASKED THAT HIS PAPERS NOT MADE PUBLIC; HEIR MADE THEM PUBLIC; FIRST THEY WERE ANONYMOUS BUT LATER ASSOCIATED WITH HIM; THEY SHOWED HIS WORK RESULTS WAS NOT 100% ACCURATELY REPORTED/CONTROVERSY
give up your resources--thomas hardy return of the native--diamoind merchant to teacher--wiffe miserable about it.  t this point, Wildeve reappears; he has unexpectedly inherited a large sum of money, and is now in a better position to fulfill Eustacia's hopes.  their marriage breaks up over her role in his mother;s death,

ALTER DE LA MARE  AGE 35--he received a Civil List pension which enabled him to concentrate on writing.

IN THE NEWS:
SUMMER 2015
T. SATURN STATION=PLUTO
GREEK FINANCIAL PROBLEMS

SUPREME COURT/LETHAL INJECTION DECISION

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