Saturn/Zeus

SATURN/ZEUS

RPP: Bequeathing.  Perseverance.  Oppression.  Anxiety, anguish. Obstacles and hindrances in activity in work.   To separate from or interrupt in activities.  Losses while producing. Breakdown of machines.  Fire losses in establishments.  Occurrences without consequences.

Nova Chartwheels:
General damages through steam power.  Losses through fire.  Fire losses in business establishments.  Damage to machines. 
Obstacles and hindrances in work activity.  Losses while working. 
To separate or interrupt activities.
Events without consequences. 
Heredity.  Perseverance. 
Fear, anxiety, anguish

My findings:

Physical growth inhibitor --Mickey Rooney, Linda Hunt, Toulouse Lautrec

Start in life not in synch with potential

Product launch problems (failure to ignite)

Productive old age

   .  Jessica Tandy at age 80, the oldest Oscar winner
   .  Marguerite Duras wrote The Lovers  at age 79.
   .  Grandma Moses started painting at age 78
   .  Maggie Kuhn started Gray Panthers working rights for seniors 
      Sun=Saturn/Zeus <`1 degree  8/4/1905
   .  Ruth Bader Ginsberg
   .  Artist who became famous in her 90's  Saturn/Zeus=Cupido/Vulcanus=Aries within 10' orb
      October 28, 1921 Luchita Hurtad
   .  Ruth Bader Ginsberg opposition 2 degree orb

.     Elizabeth Jolley wrote first book age 53 (then wrote 15 novels and won awards)

Not every Saturn/Zeus person had glory in their old age, but they seem to have died with their boots on, doing what they do.

Older parents
Sandra Bullock
Samuel Morse Age 66
Susan Sarandon
Minor aspects: Cary Grant, Tammy Duckworth, Halle Barry, Marguerite Navarre, Anne of Austria

In younger people: somewhat lower incidence of  reproduction; some anecdotal association with cloning

Physical growth inhibitor --Mickey Rooney, Linda Hunt, Toulouse Lautrec

Start in life not in synch with potential

Product launch problems (failure to ignite)

.  Elderly person event: 86 year old driver accelerates (Zeus) instead of breaking (Saturn) drove into a        market, killed 63.  Fueled a national debate of safety risks involving elderly drivers.   

   N.  Saturn=Zeus as well as transiting Saturn square T. Zeus triggering natal picture.

   
COMEBACKS 
    Martina Navratilova P. Zeus station square N. Saturn; she retired, returned, retired, returned.
    Diana Nyad P. Vulcanus=Saturn/Zeus; career resurgence in her 60’s
    Tiger Woods natal chart
     Winston Churchill natal
     Also, possibly Pluto/Zeus?

Professional return for ousted exee: natal Mars-Saturn/Zeus (also Pallas=Chiron bad work behavior got him ousted) Jan. 12, 1957

Mickey Rourke T. Zeus conjunct N. Saturn; age 59, returned to boxing for the first time in 20 years,

Pussycat dolls reunion 5 out of 6 have natal Saturn/Zeus
Nicole Scherzinger June 29, 1978)
Saturn/Zeus=Aries 
announced reunion 11/28/2019 T. Saturn=Zeus! 

Carmit Bachar  September 4, 1974
N Saturn/Zeus=Aries

Ashley Allyn Roberts (born September 14, 1981)
N. Saturn/Zeus=Aries

Jessica Lynn Sutta (born May 15, 1982
N. Saturn//Zeus
T. Saturn conjunct N. South Node Capricorn; not a great sign for the longevity of this reunion

Melody Thornton (born September 28, 1984
N. Saturn/Zeus=Mars and Cupido and Admetos

Kimberly Kaye Wyatt (born February 4, 1982) 
no Saturn/Zeus by major aspect


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•        Instances of enduring work produced at the time of transit/progression  with a lukewarm reception at the time.

•        Long running litigation (cases ruled on, contested, re-opened)

RPP "Losses while producing"

•         Black man gets death threats when he sets sports record  (+ aspect for enmity Sun=Saturn/Hades)

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War and weapons: involve in war without fighting.  Discharge from military.  Some anti-war.

People involved in war but not fighting;  

.   Bob Hope and Martha Rae entertained the troops.  
 .  Honorable discharge from the military due to health. 
   (P. Saturn conjunct N. Zeus/Kirk Douglas)
 .  John Bolton Natal + Progression exact. enlisted in the National Guard in 1970.
      "I confesss I had no desire to die in a Southeast Asian rice paddy. 
       I considered the war in Vietnam already lost." (minor aspect)

.   Lord Byron N. Saturn=Zeus

     T. Saturn station conjunct Zeus June-August 1820

     He "visits" meetings of the Carbonari ; becomes honorary chief in Turba or Mob faction; 
     he doesn't fight. 
.   JFK and Jacques Levy write major military books after they left military; when they're civilians
.   Leonardo N. chart +progressions:

    P. Saturn square Zeus -- brother born; he died in battle at age 30

    P. Zeus square N. Saturn -- lawsuit with half brothers over real estate; verdict:  
     he could inhabit property all his life, but it was not his to sell.

    T. Saturn conjunct Zeus (square N. Saturn) votes to relocate Michelangelo's David 
    against Michelangelo's wishes
.   Mahatma Gandhi natal Sun=Saturn/Zeus passive resistance

.  Football player relieved of military duty by US President so he could play a game

.  Sarah Brady gun control activist after her husband shot: Mars/Saturn=Sun and Zeus

.  Bulletproof vest: Juno=Saturn/Zeus

.  Peter Gabriel Sun=Mars=Saturn=Zeus=Kronos=Poseidon.

    He funded the Elders for World Conflict Resolution P. Zeus=Kronos/Poseidon 

    7/18/2007 P. Zeus=Kronos/Poseidon and T. Zeus=T. Admetos triggering natal picture

.  ? War denial? Putin invades Ukrain.  T. Zeus conjunct N. Sun then conjunct Saturn, denied sending Russian troops

Complicated military life; e.g, being on both sides

 .     Allen Foster Dulles (1st head of CIA)

      Legal advisor to delegations on arms limitation but later ran for office on strong U.S. 
      defense platform

       Resigned as a result of failed Bay of Pigs (occurred on his watch when he was sec)

.     Margueritte Duras worked for Vichey as well as Resistance

 Other military problems:

.  Being gay forced Fredrich Von Steuben leave Prussian army to join American Revolution

.  Jerry Garcia N. Saturn=Chiron=Zeus  he went AWOL

.  Greek leader's country overrun by enemy--forms government in exile 

.  Watergate break in exposed; Richard Nixon has P. Vesta=Saturn/Zeus (2' orb)

N. Venus=Saturn/Zeus??

.  Pentagon Papers in Henry Kissinger's chart N. Mercury=Saturn/Zeus            

   His SR for the release of war documents in the newspaper: Mercury=Saturn/Zeus exact

.  Wife assisted wives and children and soldiers who married without permission 
    on whom the Army turned its back.  N. Venus=Saturn/Zeus Sir Richard Burton

.  Abandoned by father, Air Force airman, before her birth; Demi Moore N. Venus=Saturn/Zeus

.  Catherine the Great appointed her lover's brother to lead the army.   
   Eventually, recalled in disgrace. Catherine N. Mercury=Saturn/Zeus

.  Richard V. Spencer Dept of Navy resigned war crimes Saturn//Zeus DOB 1/18/1954 no tob

.  ??? Genius war innovator, but died in a war  known as the "father of modern warfare".  Saturn//Zeus Gustavus Adolphus

Some anti-war people have Saturn/Zeus: Bob Dylan, Guy DeMaupessant, Burl Ives, Guy DeMaupessant, who actually wrote books about war books that were anti war.

Saturn/Zeus: weapons, fire

.  Kurt Cobain had 2 uncles who shot and killed themselves.  
    He had  N. Mercury=Saturn/Zeus. When he shot himself P. Pallas=Saturn/Zeus

.  JFK shot in a vehicle Natal Mercury=Saturn/Zeus (50')

.  Writer, Viovanni Pascoli's father assasinated; shot in vehicle;  
    Palcoli's natal Mercury=Saturn/Zeus (6')

.  William Burroughs shot his wife, killing her T. Saturn-N. Zeus 

.  Scientist Robert Hooke got rich as a result of his work during the Great Fire!

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NEWS December, 1916
T. Saturn conjunct T. Zeus square T. Kronos 

• Battle of Verdun ended.
• Rasputin assassination attempt (??conjunct his natal Apollon).  The first shots didn't  did not succeed in killing Rasputin. After a while "Rasputin opened his eyes and became aware of his predicament." He struggled up the stairs to reach the first landing, opening an unlocked door to the courtyard. Alarmed by the noise the assassins went down and fired at Rasputin four times, missing three times.   The shots were fatal; he would have died within 10–20 minutes, but when the body made a sudden movement, one of the assassins placed his revolver on the forehead and pulled the trigger.  
• One day earlier the largest most luxurious hotel in the US burned to the ground.
• 100 avalanches killed 18000 soldiers.  Kronos=Mountain for sure.  Unsure of weather this was tied to a warming/melting effect.

IN THE NEWS:

.  IN THE NEWS: SOME  INCIDENCE OF CEASE FIRE; GUN CONTROL, 
   Assad of Syria--T. Zeus on the antiscia of N. Saturn -- Cease fire.
   NEXT: SATURN/ZEUS SQUARE: MAY/JUNE 2019 +END 2019

Report finds no WMD in Iraq.  T. Saturn quintile Zeus

May 1, 2021 Saturn=Zeus withdrawl from Afghanistan begins 

Saturn conjunct Zeus and Neptune ssq Zeus  1st half 1945; WWII ends September (Neptune 1 degree past Zeus, Neptune was=Zeus all summer when Allies crippled Japanese Navy and got Western Pacific Island.

Saturn square Zeus 7/21-23/2003

o   Suit against gun makers dismissed

o   Mideast Peace Widens to EU and D.C.

o   U.S. troops sent closer to Liberia a day earlier. on 7/23, when the square was exact, Liberian Rebels announce cease fire.

Events having to do with smoking/not smoking occurred at the same time:

•        Federal ad regulator decides if it's all right to sell snuff as tobacco without secondhand smoke
•      A Federal judge dismissed claims by 2 tobacco companies that California's tough anti-smoking ads unfaily smear their reputation 
•       New York State antismoking law begins
•       Gathering from 171 countries to shape guidelines of international anti-smoking treaty.
•        This happened at a different time, when T. Saturn was opposite Zeus
•        Health Officials Gather In Uruguay To Discuss WHO Anti-Smoking Treaty 11/16/2010

This is a good transit to stop smoking

Friend stopped smoking when I had P. Venus=Saturn/Zeus 

Ceres/Zeus in another smoking related pic. 

Another person stopped smoking with transiting Saturn =N. Ceres=Zeus.   

Etc: Emissions

Martin Winkleman Head of Volkwagen implicated in emissions scandal Natal Saturn//Zeus

WTF
Committed murder: T. Jupiter triggered N. Saturn/Zeus aspect
(opposite N. Saturn/conjunct N. Zeus--T. Jupiter conjunct N. Zeus!)
DOB 6/281964 NO TOB
Event: 5/13/1992

WTF!! 2 big fires!
Grenfell water tower June 14, 2017
Notre Dame April 15, 2019