Neptune/Chiron

NEPTUNE IN ASPECT TO CHIRON

•        Challenges to healers, challenges in treatment

•        Water/boating mishaps, from battleships to bathtubs

•        Personal details are hidden, lost, obscured or misrepresented 

•        Communication that is misleading, exclusive or alienating

•        Neptune/Chiron's representation in fine art and popular art

Neptune/Chiron will be referred to as NC.  

All charts  cited have contain natal NC aspects or NC by transit or progression at the time of the relevant event, the specifics of which are in the data.   

NEPTUNE/CHIRON AND HEALTH

When NC describes health:

·        The condition may be misdiagnosed or incurable

·        The healer or the treatment may be unavailable, unsafe or ineffective

·        Healers face challenges

Setbacks to improving health

Early proponents of basic medical sanitation struggled to convince doctors who joked about "Good old surgical stink."¹ and whose reasoning was  "It seems improbable that enough infective matter could be secluded around the fingernails to kill a patient"².  Finding that infant mortality was reduced by  90 using basic antiseptic procedures was met with widespread rejection, proving irreversibly traumatic for the one- man movement for medical hygiene (Ignaz Semmelweis) who was beaten to death in a mental asylum.

Even twenty years later physicians still resisted the efforts of Pasteur and Lister efforts to encourage medical hygiene, absent even in the highest medical circles. "Twelve different doctors inserted unsterilized fingers and instruments in President Garfield's back probing for this bullet," before he died of sepsis rather than the bullet wound.  T. Chiron stationed trine to N. Neptune.  "If they had just left him alone he almost certainly would have survived".³

Proof  that cancer could be transmitted by a virus was discredited for decades, despite the proof.  Fifty five years later, Frances Peyton Rous won a Nobel Prize for that work.⁴ 

Jonas Salk's  vaccine to control the polio epidemic was widely accepted but contaminated with a cancer causing virus, to which 98 million people were exposed over 8 years.⁵

Some NC doctors hastened their patients' demise, among the most notorious being  "Doctor Death" Kevorkian and "Angel of Death" Doctor Josef Mengele.  When Adolf Hitler tasked Dr. Karl Brandt with designating and mobilizing  doctors to grant "mercy death to patients",⁶  Brandt's N. Chiron was trined by T. Neptune (no natal aspect).   Convicted of murdering their wives, Doctors Jeffrey MacDonald and Sam Sheppard had Venus and Moon=NC in their respective charts.  Their wives also had natal NC aspects.

Michael Jackson and Marilyn Monroe, who died of overdoses resulting from medical mishandling, had no natal aspect,  but died on T. NC aspects (conjunction and trine respectively). 

For the average person, a NC transit often marks a medical glitch or an incomplete cure.  At the time of a progression, Albert Einstein became ill and "suffered from chronic (digestive) illness" for the remaining  39 years of his life", finally dying of a stomach aneurism, now all routinely treatable.⁷   The manifestation may be milder, e.g., an unavailable doctor.

NC may mark a loved one's health event.  Here are instances of exact progressions:

When Marilyn Monroe overdosed,  Joe DiMaggio had exact progression

Learned of his son's deafness  Spencer Tracy had exact progression

Prince Albert's sickness/death - Queen Victoria transiting conjunction.  

Albert's  P.NC conjunction was exact by progression.  Some thinking: previously undiagnosed, untreated condition.⁸

Water and boating, troubles and tragedy

In addition to his fatal health crisis, two weeks before Albert died, he intervened in an naval dispute, as American Civil War Confederates tried to dodge a blockade.  Their arrest on a British boat resulted in outcries for retaliation on both continents.⁹

When things go awry on the water or in vessels (from battleships to bathtubs),  NC is a frequent symbolic component.  It appeared in the transits for for Pearl Harbor (T. ssq) , Horizon Oil Spill (conjunction),  the natal charts  of "Fulton's Folly" designer as well as Winston Churchill, whose career included a naval fiasco in the Dardanelles as well as the Suez Canal crisis, characterized as the end of the British Empire, which was marked by an NC transit.  On another transit he incurred an injury from which he never recovered He had untreated/untreatable physical, mental and alcohol challenges, including  depression, which he named "Black Dog".¹⁰

The event chart for the sinking of the Titanic contained NC=Aries. When Germans sank the British Lusitania, with over 100 Americans on board, it was a catalyst for WWI.  Leaders of three countries going to war all as a result of the ship's sinking, all had some NC symbolism.  (see Data)

·        British Prime Minister Asquith transit

·        Kaiser Wilhelm II transiting conjunction!

·        U.S. President Wilson natal + relevant SR

·        As well as Aleister Crowley who was rumored to have instigated the sinking of the Lusitania.  

When Crowley's N. N//C became exact by progression, he faked his own drowning.   He became a  drug addict when a doctor prescribed heroin for his asthma. He was almost certainly involved in the death of a follower from drinking bad water. ¹¹  That's also how Emily Bronte herself died. 

It's in the charts of drowning victims, intentional or not: Whitney Houston, Jeff Buckley and Virginia Woolf, who walked into a river with a pocket full of stones.¹¹  Crocodile Hunter Steve Irwin was pierced by a ray.   

Some drowning victims had transits but no natal aspects of N/C.   Natalie Wood had T. Chiron trine N. Neptune, Thomas Merton (bathtub fatality) had T. Neptune trine T. Chiron, both trining his N. Chiron.  Not fatal but illustrative: Annie Edson Taylor, the first to survive a trip over Niagara Falls in a barrel on her 62nd birthday.

Other aspects and positions with the potential for health or water mishaps: Saturn/Neptune, Neptune/Hades, Neptune=Saturn/Uranus, Pisces planet in hard aspect to Saturn.

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Hidden or mistaken identity/activity

That which is inscrutable or incomprehensible

Personal details are hidden, lost, confused, or misrepresented, intentionally or by chance.   It appeared in the charts of "Deep Throat" Mark Felt and Rachel Dolezal who resigned the chapter presidency of the NAACP when her natal square was 2' from exact by progression,  after her parents revealed "She's clearly our birth daughter and we're clearly Caucasian--that's just a fact."¹³   "Passing" as white, literary critic Anatole Broyard knew his racial origins were mixed.  It was only when he died that his children learned of his (and their own) Creole background.  His daughter went on to write Not One Drop: My Father's Hidden Life--a Story of Race and Family Secrets. ¹⁴

                                                                                      

History and Science

"A frustrating combination of misinformation and ignorance" ¹⁵ characterize George Washington's chronicled history.  beginning with the cherry tree story (didn't happen), the silver dollar (there were none at the time) the winter at Valley Forge (wasn't really all that bad) and his wooden teeth (although he had lost them all).  The myths were created by his first biographer in response to  "Millions are gaping  (sic) to read something about him ...My plan!  I give his history, sufficiently minute".   The work was criticized even in its day as “ belonging to the annals of fanaticism and absurdity".¹⁶

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He also performed his first military task in this time frame, reconnoitering  a river, which led to his arrest for an ambush that killed a French officer.  He understood no French and--according to the famously truthful Washington-- his terms of surrender were interpreted incorrectly and misunderstood.¹⁸  The incident led to the French Indian War, which in turn developed into the Seven Years War, fought by the world powers of four continents.  The specifics are still debated.¹⁹

Thomas Jefferson intentionally shied away from public scrutiny.  "My great wish is to go on a strict but silent performance of my duty to avoid attracting notice"²⁰.  "He did not always speak exactly as he felt, either towards his friends or his enemies...he has left hanging over a part of his public life a vapor of duplicity...generally felt more than it is seen"²¹, according to the son of John Quincy Adams, who, as a child, actually knew Jefferson.   American Sphinx is the title of one Jefferson biography. 

His work behind the scenes backfired on at least one occasion when secret talks attempting to encourage France to wage war against a common enemy (Great Britain), led instead to an undeclared naval war involving unnamed diplomats ( X,Yand Z).  The October 1797 incident was symbolized by two simultaneous transiting contacts to Jefferson's natal Neptune/Chiron conjunction, a trine from Neptune and a square from Chiron

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Galileo's device to raise water using a horse²² notwithstanding, the work of NC scientists may be secret or misrepresented.   Copernicus recorded in secret his heliocentric observations on a transiting conjunction;  said  they were "not intended for observation"  to avoid the scorn "to which he would expose himself on account of the novelty and incomprehensibility of his theses". ²³  At the end of his life, his work was betrayed by an unsigned letter printed in the preface without his knowing and "at variance with Copernicus' claims for his own theory".²⁴

                                                                                           

Codes

 The code breakers' goal in wartime is to understand a secret language, indecipherable to outsiders, created to inflict harm.  Among the code breakers who 'cracked' the code of WWII German Enigma machines, 8 of the 14 charts available had major natal NC aspects (see Code Breaker Data).  Success came with the "bombe" machine, introduced by cryptologist Marian Rejewski when his natal NC conjunction was 2' from exact by progression.  When it was exact,  he broke the code of the Polish military in 2 hours.²⁵  The most famous among them, Alan Turing, had both natal and SR aspects.  Supreme Court Justice Stevens, an intelligence officer during WWII, who was awarded a Bronze Star for successful code breaking in Pearl Harbor, had both a natal aspect as well as transit at the time of the event.

Samuel Morse designed his code in response to a personal tragedy when he learned his wife had become ill and died without his knowing.  His horoscope contained the natal aspect, and it re-appeared in his solar return at the time of the first transmission.²⁵  

Literature, art and film

NC art contains multiple manifestations of the symbolism, in endless combinations:

.      Water disasters

·        Physically and mentally sick characters, sick author, dangers of medicine, some intemperance

Water disasters are portrayed in blockbuster films and novels, created by artists with natal NC pictures.  Jaws, the novel and "Jaws", the film, "Titanic", Mutiny on the Bounty authors (and Captain Bligh himself), Moby Dick, authors of classics about Odysseus/Ulysses (James Joyce and Ezra Pound), who, like Steve Irwin died from a ray's sting.

The plots and characters in NC fiction and art ( as well as the real lives of the artists) include   

·        Mistaken or assumed identify.  Mask, disguises

·        Facelessness, namelessness

·        Absence of  other distinguishing characteristics such as linear time or punctuation

·        Misrepresentation; trusting the wrong people; results in alienation, harm

·        Mental or physical health problems, usually accompanied by ineffective or harmful treatment

Fabricated details

On a transiting conjunction, Melville published Pierre, or The Ambiguities, about a character whose personal details had been fabricated.   In real life, Melville suggested to his publisher not to use his real name on for the book.  "It might not prove unadvisable to publish this present book anonymously" and suggested "A Vermonter" as a possibility.²⁵  The book's reviews declared  "Melville's fancy is diseased" and "Herman Melville Crazy".²⁶   His obituary incorrectly records  his personal details, referring to him as Hiram Melville, and to his novel as "Mobie Dick".²⁷

Communication is inscrutable, non-linear, absence of distinctions such as time or punctuation

Ezra Pound  transcended boundaries of linear communication  using images to  (called ideograms) to express abstract concepts, he based on the Chinese alphabet. Convicted of treason, he spent 12 years in a federal mental institution.  Stream of consciousness writers whose work is nonlinear and considered inscrutable are James Joyce and Virginia Woolf, born the same week, both with natal NC aspects.  Neither writer used linear time and both blur the lines between thought and reality.

Health events; harm inflicted by medicine, doctors portrayed in the arts

Novelists James Joyce and Virginia Woolf also had in common misguided medical treatment;  both had their teeth pulled  to combat depression and blindness, respectively. ^{28, 29}  Joyce's blindness worsened after years of bad treatment, starting with his first childhood diagnosis advising against eyeglasses, ³⁰  followed by decades of more misdiagnoses (near-sighted rather than far-sighted), ³¹  as well as the ill informed connection between his poor eyesight and poor teeth, ³¹ marked by an exact square of transiting Neptune to natal Chiron.

 Before she drowned herself, Woolf expressed frustration with the psychiatric profession in Mrs. Dalloway. ²⁹  The psychiatrist portrayed in the novel, who advised the extractions, was also born with the natal aspect (Dr. George Savage).  Another surreal writer, Franz Kafka ("Kafka-esque" refers to incomprehensible experiences),  also  had health concerns and died young after trying bizarre regimens like avoiding moonlight. ³³

Novelist Thomas Mann's  "The Magic Mountain is the result of his wife's misdiagnosis.³⁴  Death in Venice features a sick older man wearing disguises while a cholera  outbreak which begins to become a plague

Medical blockbusters featuring flaws in the system:   Coma , One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest, and The History of Madness (Robin Cooke, Ken Kesey, Michel Foucault, respectively).   The Citadel, an expose of the health industry, which spurred the creation of the British National Health Service.  (A.J. Cronin)

Disguise; Hidden/mistaken/misleading identity

In a real life incident, writer Vladimir Nabokov's future wife wore a mask the entire night they met.   His chart contained Moon=Neptune/Chiron, triggered by progressed Sun,  just one minute from the natal picture.  It became the 'dear mask'.   He referred to his own use of pseudonyms as "the little silk mask of an additional pen name in order to deceive this or that captious critic".³⁵

A portrait of a faceless subject, "The Bride stripped bare" was produced in secret while the art world thought Marcel Duchamp retired to be a chess master.  Described as "baffling..unclassifiable, not a discrete whole",  it's accompanied by a stream of consciousness style guidebook which refers to parts of the painting that aren't there.   Earlier, "Nude Descending a Staircase" raised questions as to the age or gender of the subject; some even question whether it's a human body at all. ³⁶

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Beauty belies evil.  The real character is hidden on a portrait sequestered from view (Picture of Dorian Gray).   The characters pretend to be others in "The Importance of Being Earnest".   Wilde's deafness was hastened by bad medical treatment in prison.³⁷

Rebecca's plot neatly lays out every NC attribute:  a stunningly beautiful title character who had a terminal disease but died in a boating accident.  She is never "seen" by the reader.  Believed to have been perfect by her husband's new wife (who remains anonymous) Rebecca's dark truths are revealed at a masked ball.   Rebecca was used as a spy code to send reports during WWII.³⁸.   

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Woody Allen's life and prolific output illustrate endless combinations of NC possibilities in life and work.  Still "claustrophobic and agoraphobic" after 37 years in psychotherapy;  "He won't go through tunnels, doesn't like the country after dark, or showers with drains in the center of the floor".³⁹  

His work targets questionable, sometimes despicable, doctors (faceless therapists in particular), bizarre illnesses (hysterical blindness) and treatment (herbs rendering you invisible so you can view everyone's private lives) as well as fake and real drowning and boating mishaps, such as murder/suicide on a boat resulting from a criminal doctor's manipulations to save himself ("Cassandra's Dream").  Characters' lives change following misplaced confidences and conversations overheard,  accidentally or intentionally. 

Magicians often appear in his films.

Analyst: "I'm an analyst, not a magician."
Patient: "Then perhaps what I need is a magician," ...and with that he terminated his therapy.  

Side Effects  by Woody Allen ⁴⁰

Woody Allen is, himself,  a stage magician.  Steve Martin started his career in a magic shop with P. Chiron conjunct Neptune 1' orb.   John Dee, who conducted a serious investigation of Hermetic magic, had the natal conjunction.  In the charts of 10 stage magicians, 8 had major aspects (see magicians data).  

Houdini's "secret ghost-buster" working undercover for the illusionist to expose phony psychics

Rose Mackenber 7/10/1892 

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In closing

Neptune brings its own nature to every aspect it makes, potentiating health or water events as well as that which hidden.  Combined with Chiron, the outcomes of health or water events are less likely to be successful, and likelier to result in a "wound" or damage.  And while all secrets exclude others, when secrets are symbolized by Neptune/Chiron aspects, they are often rooted in personal alienation or with the aim of "wounding" others.

Health:  Doctors can't help
Medical innovations face challenges
Doctors who kill (Kervorkian, Megele)

undiagnosed illness
a chronic illness or an illness you can live with for a long time

Boat or navy problems
PEARL HARBOR 12/7/1941 NEPTUNE SSQ CHIRON=ASC
??MC=VENUS AND JUPITER

TITANIC SINKING EVENT
NEPTUNE/CHIRON=ARIES
17' ORB

Woman buys boat with her inheritance
Boat destroyed in hurricane

Event: 
Russian and US Navy boat clash
Donald Trump T. Chiron=Natal Neptune/Zeus


STEVE IRWIN DOB 2/22/1962 1AM Australia
N. Neptune=Chiron=Vulcanus (22 1/2 approx 35' orb)
N. Chiron=Neptune/Vulcanus forms a tight aspect
T. Jupiter conjunct Neptune hitting off Neptune/Chiron/Vulcanus picture at time of death in the water.
PLUS T. Neptune contacting natal Saturn/Uranus picture.

Neptune station conjunct Obama's Chiron and Ebola Tzar's Chiron at the start of Ebola outbreak in US

MEDICAL INNOVATIONS FACE CHALLENGE
When he was a medical resident, he saw a patient who was dying of colon cancer. The man began telling Dr. Lynch about all the other people in his family who had had cancer. Intrigued, Dr. Lynch applied for a research grant from the National Institutes of Health, hoping to show that colon cancer could be hereditary. He was turned down. Neptune/Chiron=Aries January 4, 1928

In the news:
T. Neptune antiscia T. Chiron (close to a new moon squaring Neptune)
Oil spill

When Joe DiMaggio had P. Chiron=Neptune (2' past exact) Marilyn overdosed and died.

CAPTAIN BLIGH NEPTUNE=CHIRON=CUPIDO
REAL CAPTAIN BLIGH MADE FAMOUS BY MUTINY ON THE BOUNTY

Vanessa Redgrave
P.  Chiron square Neptune: she became UN Unicef ambassador `995.
When her daughter died, T. Saturn=T. Neptune 1 degree from her natal Saturn/Neptune/Chiron config.

N. Neptune/Chiron
Herman Hesse: novels of crises; personal depression

HD quit jobs because of health

Hugo Black Supreme Ct. Justice left medical school after a year (?)

James Joyce: bad diagnosis about his ulcer lead to his death

Brian Jones drowned North node Neptune conjunct N. Chiron

Robert Maxwell drowned Sun=Neptune/Chiron <1 almost="" certainly="" closer="" degree="" font="" orb="">

Franco Columbu drowned T. Chiron antiscia Neptune no apparent natal picture

?Pirates Eugene Sue

NEPTUNE/CHIRON

HESSE: AUTHOR OF CRISIS

INSTITUTIONALIZED

THOMAS MANN

Nietzsche's influence on Mann runs deep..especially Nietzsche's views on decay and the proposed fundamental connection between sickness and creativity. Mann held that disease is not to be regarded as wholly negative "after all and above all it depends on who is diseased, who mad, who epileptic or paralytic: an average dull-witted man...or a Nietzsche or Dostoyevsky. In their case something comes out in illness that is more important and conductive to life and growth than any medical guaranteed health or sanity... in other words: certain conquests made by the soul and the mind are impossible without disease, madness, crime of the spirit."
Magic Mountain: description of the subjective experience of serious illness and the gradual process of medical institutionalization

Katherine Mansfield N. Mercury=Neptune=Chiron=Aries  64H/19' orb
Tuberculosis

BERLIOZ
ABANDONED MEDICAL SCHOOL

ALEISTER CROWLEY
 It has been argued that he encouraged the German Navy to destroy the Lusitania, informing them that it would ensure the US stayed out of the war, while in reality hoping that it would bring the US into the war on Britain's side.^[126]

Thomas Andrews, Jr. (7 February 1873 no tob)
Hades+Vucanus=Neptune/Chiron (approx 22' orb)
Also n. Saturn square Neptune 2 degree orb
T. Chiron=T. Sun=N. Saturn/Neptune -- He was aboard the Titanic

Rajneesh group commits bioterrorism with poisoning food
T. Chiron station square Neptune
September-October 1984

The chosen biological agent wasSalmonella enterica Typhimurium, which was first delivered through glasses of water to two County Commissioners and then, on a larger scale, at salad bars and in salad dressing. As a result of the attack, 751 people contracted salmonellosis

Paul Newman Color blindness changed his direction in Navy.
Wound up in Navy Training.
Hole in the Wall Camp for really sick kids.

?Miles Davis "There's a Boat that's Leaving Soon"

MELVILLE--MUTINIES
STARTED SAILING 4/1/1841 (HE DESERTED A YEAR LATER)
T. NEPTUNE ON NATAL NEPTUNE/CHIRON/ APPOLLON
(=SATURN/URANUS/PLUTO/CHIRON/APOLLON)
+T. SATURN CONJUNCT NEPTUNE



CHARLES NORDHOFF WROTE MUTINY ON THE BOUNTY NEPTUNE/CHIRON=ARIES 25'
JAMES NORMAN HALL CO WROTE MUTINY NEPTUNE/CHIRON WIDE W ARIES 56'







Quincy Jones: 2 brain aneurisms; Ray Charles was original inspiration

Oscar Wilde: His own health: before prison his doctor made wrong prognosis about his condition leading to deafness, said his hearing would be saved (it got worse); in prison the prison medical officer declared that he was unable to offer assistance and that the hearing had to go completely.
Also disliked being about sick people but they wanted HIS company when they were sick and dying;

Prince Charles
T. Chiron antiscia N. Neptune--Herbal doctors will not be regulated, despite pleas from Prince Charles April 5, 2015

Prince Albert
P. Neptune=P. Chiron 1' orb
Interceded in Trent Affair
Confederate President Jefferson Davis, seeking support against the North, sent diplomats James Mason of Virginia as minister to Britain and John Slidell of Louisiana as minister to France. Eluding the Union blockade, the Southerners reached Cuba, where they boarded a British mail steamer, the Trent, for passage across the Atlantic Ocean. On November 8, 1861, Captain James of the USS San Jacinto, halted the Trent 300 miles east of Havana with two shots across the bow. A boarding party from the San Jacinto seized the Confederate diplomats and their secretaries but then allowed the Trent to resume its voyage. This decision became a source of controversy, with the British claiming that the San Jacinto had violated international law by removing persons from a ship without taking the ship to a prize court for adjudication.

Guido Bandano 6/27/1927 no tob
Neptune/Chiron=Aries
Worked on Andrea Doreo saves passengers 


Albert Einstein P. Chiron conjunct N. Neptune exact 5/1917
Felled by a stomach ailment.  Laid low for 4 months (Chiron was just one minute from exact); some say he was sick for 4 years; it bothered him for the rest of his life.

Flaubert Natal Uranus=Neptune=Chiron
T. Neptune conjunct Chiron (square the config)
He took his mother to Vichy--known since Roman times for it's water cure.

He was going to be a doctor; failed at school

Hitler P. Chiron=N. Neptune 64H/exact
His neice (girlfriend) commits suicide...but with a gun.
When his girlfriend Eva Braun attempted suicide it was with barbituates.  Hitler had P. Saturn=Neptune/Admetos

Mia Farrow T. Chiron antiscia N. Neptune 1967
Plays a deaf mute who's raped (Johnny Belinda)
T. Chiron opposite Chiron 7/1968
Rosemary's Baby premier --she's the mother of child to be used as a human sacrifice in their occult rituals (filmed when T. Chiron antiscia Neptune 1967--1968)

? Steve Martin
P. Chiron a few minutes from conjunction to Neptune
Starts his show biz career in a magic shop (8/1960)

? John L. Lewis Natal Neptune conjunct chiron
 P. Neptune conjunct P. Chiron In 1924, Lewis a Republican,^[10] framed a plan for a three-year contract between the UMWA and the coal operators, providing for a pay rate of $7.50 per day (about $93.29 in 2009 dollars when adjusted for inflation). President Coolidge and then-Secretary of Commerce Herbert Hoover were impressed with the plan and Lewis was actually offered the post of Secretary of Labor in Coolidge's cabinet. Lewis declined, a move he later regretted. Without government support, the contract talks failed and coal operators hired non-union miners. The UMWA treasury was drained, but Lewis was able to maintain the union and his position within it. He was successful in winning the 1925 anthracite miners' strike by his oratorical skills.

Wilhelm Reich arrested medical claims
N. Sun=Neptune/Chiron 64H/1' orb
N. Moon and Saturn and Kronos =N. Neptune/Chiron major aspect

Clara Barton "Professional Angel"
N. Sun conjunct N. Uranus and natal Neptune all square Chiron
T. Neptune conjunct N. Chiron (square Sun/Uranus/Neptune) `1862....she was working as a civilian nurse in the front lines of the civil war.  The government refused her access to supplies.  Not only was she refused--her earlier establishment of the Sanitary Commission whose purpose was to support healthy conditions for soldiers became so successful, it led to the government attempt to eliminate civilian participation in helping--like her.

P. Chiron square natal Neptune 1850--she goes to school to study language. HUH?



Bill Gates T. Neptune conjunct Chiron 1999
writes book with accurate predictions about how tech will work--IT'S ALL HAPPENING!
Business at the Speed of Thought



Michael Hutchence T. Chiron conjunct Neptune when he died (substance was a contribution)
PROGRESSED SUN TRINE NATAL AND PROGRESSED NEPTUNE!

?? Kevin Costner 1997--"The Postman" story of an unnamed nomadic drifter (played by Costner) who stumbles across the uniform of an old United States Postal Service mail carrier and unwittingly inspires hope through an empty promise of a "Restored United States of America". Unsuccessful movie

?Patty Hearst N. Neptune/Chiron 1975
P. Neptune=Chiron exact when arrested (kidnapping 1975 P. Neptune=N. chiron 2' orb)

Brainwashing Patty Hearst weighed 87 pounds and suffered a loss of 18 IQ points, described by Dr. Margaret Singer in October 1975 as "a low-IQ, low-affect zombie."^[36] Shortly after her arrest, there were some clear signs of trauma and several DSM-5 classifications: her IQ was measured at 112 from 130 previously;

lord beaverbrook

feigned ill health when he didn't want to accept a post or when he had problems with his post/

EVENTS:
TIVOLI GARDENS OPENED W NEPTUNE OPPOSITE CHIRON EXACT AUGUST 1843

"BLACK CAT' PUBLISHED; PSYCHOLOGY OF GUILT; DRUNK GUY GAUGES CAT'S EYE, THEN HANGS IT

??sailing to escape

?Liza Minelli
? Willie Nelson

8/7/1878
T. CHIRON CONJUNCT T. NEPTUNE BOTH STATION 1 DEGREE AWAY 8/7/1878
Booth was reading a printer's proof of the 1878 annual report when he noticed the statement "The Christian Mission is a volunteer army." Crossing out the words "volunteer army," he penned in "Salvation Army." From those words came the basis of the foundation deed of The Salvation Army.
WALLINGFORD CONNECTICUT TORNEDO

EILEEN GRAY
SAME CONJUNCTION
NEPTUNE-=CHIRON=PALLAS
DEVELOPED A DISEASE FROM USING LACQUER IN HER WORK

6/10/1879
unions leader let go from job striking against phosperous in matches made his father blind

6/1/1879 general let go from army  he was dismissed from the army as a Venizelist

Ottorino Respighi 7/1879 opera about a medical institute researching poisonour snakes and venempous lizards

7/1879 admiral snyder
On January 6, 1940, t. neptune ssq n. neptune/chiron
he was second in command of the U.S. Fleet, under an Admiral who was relieved over a dispute about fleet basing and replaced byan admiral snyder did not was to  work for.  The ship was downgraded to three stars, after his tour, heasked to be relieved immediately.^[9]eleven months before most of the Battle Force's battleships were sunk at anchor during the Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor.
not on transit: participated in the debate over the role of African American sailors in the Navy. The Navy's policy was to confine black sailors to menial duties as stewards and messmen, excluding them from general service on the grounds that they were unable to maintain discipline among white subordinates and therefore had to be segregated, which was impractical at sea

joseph cambell irish poet imprisoned for beliefs, no tranit

ZAPATA LAND AND WATER RIGHTS--5/11/1911 HE CUT OFF A TOWN'S WATER SUPPLY T. NEPTUNE STATION=NATAL NEPTUNE/CHIRON

AUGUST 13 JOHN IRELAND INSPIRED BY CHANNEL ISLANDS
The set was reviewed by the Monthly Musical Record in August 1915, as follows: they are the most successful pieces of pictorial writing we have encountered since the advent of Maurice Ravel, whose style they somewhat resemble as regards technique. Magic seas and fairy woods are evoked IN “The Island Spell”.... “Moon-Glade”, also written over a poem of Arthur Symons commencing “Why are you so sorrowful in dreams?

JOSEPH Wirth GERMAN POLITICIAN. His main focus was on social issues. At the start of World War I Wirth volunteered for military service but was deemed unfit to serve for health reasons. He then joined the Red Cross. From 1914-17 he worked as a nurse on the western and eastern fronts. After contracting pneumonia, he had to stop this work.

NEPTUNE=CHIRON=PALLAS
EMPLOYEE MAKES YOU SICK (EMPORER 8/29/1879) (=zEUS/FEVERS/INFLAMATION)
CAN'T DO JOB CAUSEOF ILLNESS

Prince Charles t. Chiron antiscia Neptune Herbal doctors will not be regulated despite his plea 4/5/2015

?? Rigged game show
This is what he's famous for, but he could have had a Neptune/Chiron health issue.
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masks, disguise
Charles II Aries=Sun=Neptune/chiron
sustained his disguise as a man of ordinary origins, and to move unrecognised through his realm. 
]In the days between his collapse and his death, Charles endured a variety of torturous treatments including bloodletting, purging and cupping in hopes of effecting a recovery.

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PERSONAL DETAILS ARE FABRICATED OR OBSCURED
Rachel Dolezal Prog. exact when she was outed as white
Julia Salazar said to fabricate Jewish background (Jupiter=Neptune=Chiron=Kronos 64H)

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ALTERNATIVE SYMBOLISM FOR SOME OF THESE ISSUES IS SATURN/NEPTUNE