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Saturn/Chiron pictures appear in the natal charts of victims and abductors; children abused by parents or taken from parents
SR Man abducts his own child SR Saturn=Chiron
the whole picture is Saturn=Uranus=Chiron=Kronos
Separations common at the time of transits and progressions. Worst case...sometimes loss of a loved one.
In one instance of a child abusing his parent, Louis XIII, age 16, exiled his mother and killed her supporters. She was a DeMedici...her own behavior drove him to it. He had natal Sun=Saturn/Chiron as well as a square with just one degree orb. His progression was exact when he was 9 years old.
Kurt Cobain Venus conjunct Saturn conjunct Chiron 7th house
Venus=Saturn/Chiron
love and harm combined
Daughter Frances Cobain
Chiron opposite Saturn
Casey Anthony
N. Saturn opposite Chiron
Jaycee Lee Dugard 5/3/1980
N. Saturn/Chiron=Aries (64/approx 10' orb)
Phillip Garrido 4/5/1951
N. Saturn/Chiron=Aries (22 1/2 - approx 16' orb)
Nancy Garrido 7/18/1955
N. Saturn=Chiron (64H/approx 3' orb)
Saturn/Chiron pictures appear in the natal chart chart of Joseph Fritzl who held his daughter captive and Elizabeth Fritzl who was held captive by her father.
Joseph Fritzl 4/9/1935
N. Saturn square Chiron (approx 12' orb)
Elizabeth Fritz 4/6/1966
N. Saturn conjunct Chiron (less than 20' orb)
Saturn/Chiron also appears in the natal chart of Elizabeth Smart's abductor
Brian David Mitchell 10/18/'1953
N. Saturn/Chiron=Aries (22 1/2 - approx 9' orb)
Altho the Saturn/Chiron picture in Elizabeth Smart's horoscope is less compelling
Elizabeth Smart 11/3/1987
N. Saturn/Chiron=Hades (64H/approx 7' orb)
Two of the abductors of Patty Heart had Saturn/Chiron pictures
Cinque 11/16/1943
N. Saturn=Chiron (64H/approx 10')
Soltysik, Pat 17 July 1950 9:30 AM Santa Barbara CA,
N. Saturn square Chiron - 35' orb
N. MC=Saturn/Chiron (64H/9' orb)
Patty Hearst 2/20/1954 6:01pm San Francisco, CA
N. MC=Saturn/Chiron (64H/1') also=Mars & Kronos
Another interesting picture in Patty Hearst's chart is Sun=Saturn=Vulcanus by 22 1/2 --21' orb, symbolizing her incarceration.
When Charlie Chaplin was placed in an orphanage T. Chiron station was 22 1/2 his natal Mars/Saturn square. (Btw the Dutchess of Windsor was born the next day)
Frances Cobain (daughter of Curt Cobain and Courtney Love) has tight natal picture of Saturn/Chiron. Her mother lost custody when T. Saturn was on Frances' Moon/Venus midpoint.
T. Saturn conjunct N. Chiron (approx 40' orb)
Steve Irwin on day of death. (DON'T UNDERSTAND THIS ONE)
N. Saturn/Chiron=Aries (exact)
Sharon Stone who lost custody of her son.
N. Saturn conjunct Chiron
Gustave Courbet whose mistress took his only child. (He wasn't that unhappy about it)
N. Saturn opposite Chiron
Casey Anthony arrested for murdering her child.
DOB 3/11/1986
Jon Benet Ramsey Venus=Saturn=Chiron
N. Saturn/Chiron=Aries (64H/exact)
Murdered by her mother at age 3. DOB 3 March 1965 at 21:55 London
Ted Hughes' daughter.
T. South Node Chiron antiscia my Saturn
I'm having 2nd thoughts about going into therapy--with this transit, I don't think I'll connect successfully.
Jeffrey Dahmer N. Chiron=Saturn 45' orb
In 1974 his P. Chiron was stationary rx exactly with Saturn. He began drinking, had his first homosexual experience (probably his first human sexual experience) and began masterbating to the fantasy that he was having sex with a corpse.
Scott Eastwood illegitimate Saturn=Chiron
Arthur Koestler Saturn=Chiron cut off illegitimate child
P. Chiron trine natal Saturn--approximate time when Richard Hickock ("In Cold Blood") was executed
Hideaki Anno N. Saturn=Chiron
Japanese Anime creator of Neon Genesis Evangelion. Here's what one website said about it: created in 1995 during a depression; is filled with the most mentally damaged cast of characters since One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest. The main character of the series is called in by his father (who abandoned him as a child) to pilot a unit after the first pilot is badly wounded. He spends half the time either moping in his bed listening to shitty emo music or being terrified of everything
strange one: P. Chiron square natal Saturn--King William IV--but something important happened to his brother. In August 1794--the square was exact--his bother's marriage was annulled because it had not been approved by the King. The brother's child was now illigitimate.
Libaud, poisoned children. N. Chiron=Saturn.
Sharon Stone had her son get botox injections to end the smell coming from his feet.
In March and April 1900, T. Saturn and Chiron both stationed forming an antiscia to each other. Here are some people born then
Erich Fromm, no children, alienated from parents; "Art of Loving": Because modern humans are alienated from each other and from nature, we seek refuge from our aloneness in romantic love and marriage. When P. Saturn was precisely at the anticia, he left Nazi Germany.
Spencer Tracy, sick child, stayed in unhappy marriage; violent drunk
Roberto Arlt, writer whose subjects were about outcasts-the poor, the criminal and the mad, people who felt like nobodies; had 2 kids
Polly Adler, no kids, father a travelling tailer, left her family at age 12 (the war kept her family from being with her); became a Madame. Mercury=Saturn/Chiron she wrote "House is Not a Home" and used newspapers to publicize herself (?)
Prince Henry--Uncle King Edward VII was shot in an assasination attempt one week before he was born
Of course, lots of people had the picture by progression. When Fromm's picture was exact he was 14 and his surrogate father, someone he really connected with, had to leave for the war.
Louis Bunuel didn't have the natal picture, but he did have the progression and experienced an uncaring world. He'd already been rejected in Hollywood and when it was exact between 1943-1944 he was working in NY at MOMA. He applied for American citizenship but Dali published his autobiography, saying he had split with Buñuel because the latter was a Communist/athiest. Religious authorities confronted MOMA "Are you aware that you are harbouring in this Museum the Antichrist, the man who made a blasphemous film L'Age d'Or?" Buñuel felt compelled to resign and in 1944 returned to Hollywood for the third time. Before leaving New York, he confronted Dalí to tell the painter about the damage his book. Dali said "I did not write my book to put YOU on a pedestal. I wrote it to put ME on a pedestal".
David Helfgott N. Saturn=Chiron some people say he's being exploited by his wife
Queen Victoria, N. Saturn conjunct Chiron, mother of 9 children
"Little Vicky and her daddy love each other. Which is good, because Mom is not touching that fat, drooling little rutabaga...…I am no admirer of babies generally" At age 5, P. Chiron conjunct Saturn
She gets a governess both harsh and loved
Krishnamurti T. Chiron antiscia Chiron May 1909
Discovered by Charles Leadbeater (child molester) and probounced 'world teacher'
T. Saturn antiscia Chiron 8/17/1922 he had an uncomfortable Kundalini experience...but it was considered positive event in his life.
Saturn=Uranus=Chiron
Mother who killed her 5 kids
HERE'S A MULTI PLANET PICTURE on the dial: Saturn=Chiron=Node=Vesta=Pallas=Apollon (2 degree orb) DOB 4/15/1952
Author of Who's Doing the Housework? about women who work outside the home.
Steve Bannon SR
Mercury=Jupiter=Saturn/Chiron midpoint
His book is released and his relationship with Trump is damaged
Bill Cosby Natal Saturn=Chiron
P. Node=Saturn/Chiron 12/2015
faces criminal assault charges for sexual activity
Cosby also has natal Sun=Venus=Chiron
?? THESE FALL INTO THE CATEGORY OF SOMETHING BAD CAN HAPPEN
Some assassinations:
Martin Luther King P. Sun=Saturn/Chiron
Robert Fitzgerard Kennedy T. Chiron=Saturn
Anne Frank Natal Saturn=Chiron
Went into hiding when transiting Neptune stationed square Saturn and = Saturn and Chiron.
Martin Luther
P. Saturn/Chiron Ssq exact
Became an outlaw; church forbids people to feed/clothe him; church absolves anyone who murders him
D.H. Lawrence
P. Saturn=P. Chiron
9/1929 he gets wrong treatment in a sanitarium (dies shortly later)
also Neptune//Chiron//Vesta
HARPO MARX ADOPTED 4 CHILDREN
SUN=SATURN=CHIRON
Nietzsche breakdown
T. Chiron 22 1/2 natal Saturn
T. Saturn 1 degree from natal Neptune/Chiron 22 1/2
T. Saturn a bit more than one degree from opposite natal Neptune, the most obvious transit.
P. Mercury almost exact with natal and progressed Neptune by 22 1/2
Debbie Wasserman Schultz
Natal Saturn conjunct Chiron
Transiting Chiron station conjunct Saturn when she resigns from DNC
(just one degree away from Chiron/it's her Chiron return, she's outside)
Liza Minnelli P. Saturn square natal Chiron 2' orb
Leaves her husband, cites abuse
?? Aaron Copland's "Billy the Kid" premieried. P. Chiron antiscia Saturn
Did Saturn/Chiron describe character? He was an outlaw, and his mother was killed by outlaws too.
David Cameron Sun=Saturn=Chiron
T. Pluto went over this and result was Brexit
Natalie Wood
Neptune=Saturn/Chiron
(also Neptune=Hades/Chiron)
Her husband was cold to her and the Danish court didn't like her
Queen Caroline of Denmark N. Saturn=Chiron=Aries
Betrothed to Mad King Christian VII with transiting Saturn opposite Saturn =Saturn/Chiron
Married with T.Chiron square N. Chiron triggering natal Saturn/Chiron
Event: Kitty Genevise Killed
T. Chiron=N. Saturn (+ jupiter but closer to Saturn)
Separations common at the time of transits and progressions. Worst case...sometimes loss of a loved one.
In one instance of a child abusing his parent, Louis XIII, age 16, exiled his mother and killed her supporters. She was a DeMedici...her own behavior drove him to it. He had natal Sun=Saturn/Chiron as well as a square with just one degree orb. His progression was exact when he was 9 years old.
Kurt Cobain Venus conjunct Saturn conjunct Chiron 7th house
Venus=Saturn/Chiron
love and harm combined
Daughter Frances Cobain
Chiron opposite Saturn
Casey Anthony
N. Saturn opposite Chiron
Jaycee Lee Dugard 5/3/1980
N. Saturn/Chiron=Aries (64/approx 10' orb)
Phillip Garrido 4/5/1951
N. Saturn/Chiron=Aries (22 1/2 - approx 16' orb)
Nancy Garrido 7/18/1955
N. Saturn=Chiron (64H/approx 3' orb)
Saturn/Chiron pictures appear in the natal chart chart of Joseph Fritzl who held his daughter captive and Elizabeth Fritzl who was held captive by her father.
Joseph Fritzl 4/9/1935
N. Saturn square Chiron (approx 12' orb)
Elizabeth Fritz 4/6/1966
N. Saturn conjunct Chiron (less than 20' orb)
Saturn/Chiron also appears in the natal chart of Elizabeth Smart's abductor
Brian David Mitchell 10/18/'1953
N. Saturn/Chiron=Aries (22 1/2 - approx 9' orb)
Altho the Saturn/Chiron picture in Elizabeth Smart's horoscope is less compelling
Elizabeth Smart 11/3/1987
N. Saturn/Chiron=Hades (64H/approx 7' orb)
Two of the abductors of Patty Heart had Saturn/Chiron pictures
Cinque 11/16/1943
N. Saturn=Chiron (64H/approx 10')
Soltysik, Pat 17 July 1950 9:30 AM Santa Barbara CA,
N. Saturn square Chiron - 35' orb
N. MC=Saturn/Chiron (64H/9' orb)
Patty Hearst 2/20/1954 6:01pm San Francisco, CA
N. MC=Saturn/Chiron (64H/1') also=Mars & Kronos
Another interesting picture in Patty Hearst's chart is Sun=Saturn=Vulcanus by 22 1/2 --21' orb, symbolizing her incarceration.
When Charlie Chaplin was placed in an orphanage T. Chiron station was 22 1/2 his natal Mars/Saturn square. (Btw the Dutchess of Windsor was born the next day)
Frances Cobain (daughter of Curt Cobain and Courtney Love) has tight natal picture of Saturn/Chiron. Her mother lost custody when T. Saturn was on Frances' Moon/Venus midpoint.
T. Saturn conjunct N. Chiron (approx 40' orb)
Steve Irwin on day of death. (DON'T UNDERSTAND THIS ONE)
N. Saturn/Chiron=Aries (exact)
Sharon Stone who lost custody of her son.
N. Saturn conjunct Chiron
Gustave Courbet whose mistress took his only child. (He wasn't that unhappy about it)
N. Saturn opposite Chiron
Casey Anthony arrested for murdering her child.
DOB 3/11/1986
Jon Benet Ramsey Venus=Saturn=Chiron
N. Saturn/Chiron=Aries (64H/exact)
Murdered by her mother at age 3. DOB 3 March 1965 at 21:55 London
Ted Hughes' daughter.
T. South Node Chiron antiscia my Saturn
I'm having 2nd thoughts about going into therapy--with this transit, I don't think I'll connect successfully.
Jeffrey Dahmer N. Chiron=Saturn 45' orb
In 1974 his P. Chiron was stationary rx exactly with Saturn. He began drinking, had his first homosexual experience (probably his first human sexual experience) and began masterbating to the fantasy that he was having sex with a corpse.
Scott Eastwood illegitimate Saturn=Chiron
Arthur Koestler Saturn=Chiron cut off illegitimate child
kathleen battle t.
saturn sp chiron when she had her episode in 8.1992 left behind what a report
in The Boston
Globe called 'a froth of
ill will.'" natal
sun//saturn//node//chiron near zues
P. Chiron trine natal Saturn--approximate time when Richard Hickock ("In Cold Blood") was executed
Hideaki Anno N. Saturn=Chiron
Japanese Anime creator of Neon Genesis Evangelion. Here's what one website said about it: created in 1995 during a depression; is filled with the most mentally damaged cast of characters since One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest. The main character of the series is called in by his father (who abandoned him as a child) to pilot a unit after the first pilot is badly wounded. He spends half the time either moping in his bed listening to shitty emo music or being terrified of everything
strange one: P. Chiron square natal Saturn--King William IV--but something important happened to his brother. In August 1794--the square was exact--his bother's marriage was annulled because it had not been approved by the King. The brother's child was now illigitimate.
Libaud, poisoned children. N. Chiron=Saturn.
Sharon Stone had her son get botox injections to end the smell coming from his feet.
In March and April 1900, T. Saturn and Chiron both stationed forming an antiscia to each other. Here are some people born then
Erich Fromm, no children, alienated from parents; "Art of Loving": Because modern humans are alienated from each other and from nature, we seek refuge from our aloneness in romantic love and marriage. When P. Saturn was precisely at the anticia, he left Nazi Germany.
Spencer Tracy, sick child, stayed in unhappy marriage; violent drunk
Roberto Arlt, writer whose subjects were about outcasts-the poor, the criminal and the mad, people who felt like nobodies; had 2 kids
Polly Adler, no kids, father a travelling tailer, left her family at age 12 (the war kept her family from being with her); became a Madame. Mercury=Saturn/Chiron she wrote "House is Not a Home" and used newspapers to publicize herself (?)
Prince Henry--Uncle King Edward VII was shot in an assasination attempt one week before he was born
Of course, lots of people had the picture by progression. When Fromm's picture was exact he was 14 and his surrogate father, someone he really connected with, had to leave for the war.
Louis Bunuel didn't have the natal picture, but he did have the progression and experienced an uncaring world. He'd already been rejected in Hollywood and when it was exact between 1943-1944 he was working in NY at MOMA. He applied for American citizenship but Dali published his autobiography, saying he had split with Buñuel because the latter was a Communist/athiest. Religious authorities confronted MOMA "Are you aware that you are harbouring in this Museum the Antichrist, the man who made a blasphemous film L'Age d'Or?" Buñuel felt compelled to resign and in 1944 returned to Hollywood for the third time. Before leaving New York, he confronted Dalí to tell the painter about the damage his book. Dali said "I did not write my book to put YOU on a pedestal. I wrote it to put ME on a pedestal".
David Helfgott N. Saturn=Chiron some people say he's being exploited by his wife
Queen Victoria, N. Saturn conjunct Chiron, mother of 9 children
"Little Vicky and her daddy love each other. Which is good, because Mom is not touching that fat, drooling little rutabaga...…I am no admirer of babies generally" At age 5, P. Chiron conjunct Saturn
She gets a governess both harsh and loved
Krishnamurti T. Chiron antiscia Chiron May 1909
Discovered by Charles Leadbeater (child molester) and probounced 'world teacher'
T. Saturn antiscia Chiron 8/17/1922 he had an uncomfortable Kundalini experience...but it was considered positive event in his life.
Saturn=Uranus=Chiron
Mother who killed her 5 kids
HERE'S A MULTI PLANET PICTURE on the dial: Saturn=Chiron=Node=Vesta=Pallas=Apollon (2 degree orb) DOB 4/15/1952
Author of Who's Doing the Housework? about women who work outside the home.
Steve Bannon SR
Mercury=Jupiter=Saturn/Chiron midpoint
His book is released and his relationship with Trump is damaged
Bill Cosby Natal Saturn=Chiron
P. Node=Saturn/Chiron 12/2015
faces criminal assault charges for sexual activity
Cosby also has natal Sun=Venus=Chiron
?? THESE FALL INTO THE CATEGORY OF SOMETHING BAD CAN HAPPEN
Some assassinations:
Martin Luther King P. Sun=Saturn/Chiron
Robert Fitzgerard Kennedy T. Chiron=Saturn
Anne Frank Natal Saturn=Chiron
Went into hiding when transiting Neptune stationed square Saturn and = Saturn and Chiron.
Martin Luther
P. Saturn/Chiron Ssq exact
Became an outlaw; church forbids people to feed/clothe him; church absolves anyone who murders him
D.H. Lawrence
P. Saturn=P. Chiron
9/1929 he gets wrong treatment in a sanitarium (dies shortly later)
also Neptune//Chiron//Vesta
HARPO MARX ADOPTED 4 CHILDREN
SUN=SATURN=CHIRON
Nietzsche breakdown
T. Chiron 22 1/2 natal Saturn
T. Saturn 1 degree from natal Neptune/Chiron 22 1/2
T. Saturn a bit more than one degree from opposite natal Neptune, the most obvious transit.
P. Mercury almost exact with natal and progressed Neptune by 22 1/2
Debbie Wasserman Schultz
Natal Saturn conjunct Chiron
Transiting Chiron station conjunct Saturn when she resigns from DNC
(just one degree away from Chiron/it's her Chiron return, she's outside)
Liza Minnelli P. Saturn square natal Chiron 2' orb
Leaves her husband, cites abuse
?? Aaron Copland's "Billy the Kid" premieried. P. Chiron antiscia Saturn
Did Saturn/Chiron describe character? He was an outlaw, and his mother was killed by outlaws too.
David Cameron Sun=Saturn=Chiron
T. Pluto went over this and result was Brexit
Natalie Wood
Neptune=Saturn/Chiron
(also Neptune=Hades/Chiron)
Her husband was cold to her and the Danish court didn't like her
Queen Caroline of Denmark N. Saturn=Chiron=Aries
Betrothed to Mad King Christian VII with transiting Saturn opposite Saturn =Saturn/Chiron
Married with T.Chiron square N. Chiron triggering natal Saturn/Chiron
Event: Kitty Genevise Killed
T. Chiron=N. Saturn (+ jupiter but closer to Saturn)
Event: Hitler suicide T. Saturn conjunct N. Chiron
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